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You cannot be a feminist and a Christian? Sure you can. You can be a feminist and a Christian. You can be an alcoholic and a Christian. You can be an inmate and a Christian. You can be a complete moron and be a Christian. Only God knows what is in someone’s heart.
Can you be a red pill and a Christian? Now that one seriously gives me pause. I’ve read some atheists bloggers who have made an excellent case for no, on account of the fact that being a red pill requires a level of idolatry that leaves no room for Jesus Christ. Not saying I agree, just that I found it encouraging that someone else saw the inherent problems within red pill ideology and how they completely clash with everything Jesus Christ taught.
So, Deep says, “Feminism is the promotion and glorification of rebellion.” Pretty much, yes. Rebellion, as in insurrection, opposition to authority, non compliance, disobedience. Many Fems would probably agree.
He than goes on to quote “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” Uh yeah, I don’t think those are feminists. Those wolves in sheep’s clothing are actually not secularists hollering about the patriarchal nature of religion. Those wolves are dressed as sheep, as in disguised within the church as believers. They are not dressed as a giant pink uterus or a dancing satin lady bit engaged in some odd protest on a street corner.
How ironic because I believe I posted about this very thing just this morning, Deep continues, “Within marriage and male and female relationships feminism aims at distorting the natural pairing of authority and responsibility. ” Yes, indeed! But let us look at where one might acquire an aversion to authority. Perhaps in childhood, perhaps under adverse conditions, perhaps within sexual abuse, perhaps while under male authority that was so abused and perverted, the only healthy and sane response is outright rebellion?
Perhaps Christian men, rather than complaining about how women rule the world and how husbands are now slaves to women’s feelings, you could set your own suffering aside for a moment and attempt to empathize? You could even reach out to a feminist, perhaps share the gospel with her? Maybe you could look beneath the surface and see the wounding there? Feminists don’t just spring forth from a vacuum, they are made and created and what they desperately need are healthy examples of men in their lives.
Naturally that requires one to take up responsibility and authority, you know, those two things feminists are allegedly trying to rob you of.
Or, I suppose you could just call ALL women feminists, accuse ALL women of rebellion, perhaps endlessly murmur and whine about how churchianity now “absolves women of responsibility for the origins of their own sins.” Than you can proceed to deny women any chance of redemption or salvation and further declare “you cannot be a Christian and a feminist.” You could do those things, but I get the distinct impression they are not going to be very helpful.
There is also something to be said for getting the plank out of your own eye.
atimetoshare said:
I love that last sentence. Originally directed at the Pharasees it still holds amazing power!
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Cirsova said:
I think the whole Luke 23:43 “Today, you will be with me in Paradise” bit shoots a hole in the “You cannot be a Christian and X” line of reasoning.
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insanitybytes22 said:
Amen, the thief on the cross.
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joyindestructible said:
I think all of us would do better if we quit focusing so much on labels, reading label warnings, and instead, look at each other for the individuals we really are. The substance of a plank can be preconceived notions that lead to blind pre-judgments. Having said that I once encountered a woman who called herself a Christian Atheist, her label warning read: a person who believes in Christian philosophy, ethics, and morals but doesn’t believe in God. A fine example of the paradox that is in every human being.
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insanitybytes22 said:
Ah yes, Christian atheists. In some places we call them cultural Christians. They approve of the cultural impact Christianity has had, they just reject the God who made it all possible. 😉
I agree with you, labels are ridiculous because they don’t tell the whole story and they are often very subjective.
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ColorStorm said:
Hope this isn’t too far off hte rails.
I am continually impressed with your discerning ability ms bytes to see the possibility of life where others may see none. You bring up a bane of the christian life: eg. you cannot be an alcoholic and a christian….
We experience peace WITH God in moment, -we make our peace as it were, but ah, to know the peace OF God………….this takes a lifetime, and while our ‘feminist,’ or ‘alcoholic plagued’ fella may be a believer, it may take some time to learn and know the greater depths of the christian life, yet if we judged wrongly, we may ‘write someone off,’ and do both us and them harm. You do not do this, and it is consistently admirable.
So maybe the greater concern is: what kind of believers do we want to be? A lady of the evening who wears a certain kind of clothing, needs a bunch of grace, and doesn’t need lectures on how to dress. She will figure that out in due time, with here a little of scripture; in the meanwhile, how many would write her off too quickly for not being ‘adorned according to Godliness.’
Heck, even believers with years in the books havn’t gotten it right. Someone said this of the Lord: Be ye fishers of men. You catch them, and I’ll clean them. —
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insanitybytes22 said:
Ah, you said a mouthful there, Colorstorm. These are all issues around human nature. Kind of funny, but those conflicts and contradictions we often see in the church? Those go right on happening in the secular world. I really like what you said about, “what kind of believers do we want to be?” That’s a profound question with many implications that is worth chewing on for a while. 😉
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ColorStorm said:
So you are saying we need to ruminate…..to chew the cud as it were……to bring up and mull, over and over?
In that case I’m withya. But isn’t that God’s way huh. Nathanael like, under that tree, far from the maddening crowd….lol.
You know, sometimes I think that we honor God more by proving our mettle to each other in how we handle our differences, heck, even a thief is considered ‘nice’ when he shares his goods with another thief. 😉
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Pedat Ebediyah said:
“Than you can proceed to deny women any chance of redemption or salvation and further declare “you cannot be a Christian and a feminist.”
No one person can deny any other person redemption or salvation. Each person must work out their own salvation with fear and trembling.
You can be a so-called Christian and a feminist even though feminism is anti-Christ, just like you can be a white supremacist and a so-called Christian. I wouldn’t break bread nor am I compelled by ANY verse of scripture (concession or command) to fellowship with someone in rebellion to Father Yahweh any more than I am compelled to fellowship with Christ followers who would be averse to my sooty bosom.
While some might argue if either (the two above) are truly saved, I’d say they are certainly TYPES of Christians, and they are both extremely prevalent in the body of Christ I don’t awe them anything. I neither bless or curse them. I see them for what they are, and I’d certainly never marry them.
You make excuses for feminists. What’s your excuse for white supremacists? Should one empathize with them as well. They are pretty much the same to me.
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insanitybytes22 said:
What do red pills, white supremacists, and feminists all have in common? A target to hate, someone else to blame, and a way to avoid confronting the nature of their own sin.
If you cannot see your own sin it becomes very difficult to understand why you might require a Redeemer.
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Pedat Ebediyah said:
I see hate everywhere. Even here. But I also see love everywhere. Here too.
Yet, what I see is irrelevant, only that which is true. And unpleasant truths are the truths nonetheless.
Red Pill is just a praxeology, not a religion; it wasn’t founded by anyone. But all truth comes from Yahweh our Elohim.
Unpleasant truth?:
Geez, who wants to hear that crap?
You or some of your readers might (because I’m not sure) say “thats sooo negative…sooo unattractive….sooo judgmental.”
Pleasant truth: (maybe)
“Red Pills” (as you call them) might (because I’m not sure) say…“well yeah..but feminisms/rebellions/betas/churchians/”
Yet both of those scriptures are unequivocally true and applicable for living as a Christ-follower. One is descriptive, the other instructive. And both are necessary.
Of course you know that people don’t want to hear bad news, they want to hear what they consider to be kindness.
Rollo Tomassi has done more to help men than a whole gang of Christian preachers. But then again so has Voddie Baucham, as well as Dalrock. Some of what they share – to many, seems so freaking unkind. But to just as many – kind.
Why? Because I submit to you that it’s unkind to tell lies.
The: “don’t say anything bad about anybody” idea is a form of virtue signaling that works – but only for those who exchanges that particular type of emotional currency.
Once my Rabbi sent me on assignment. A very challenging one. A rather dangerous one.
I became a forum member of a couple of white supremacist web sites. Joined a few of their alt- mediums, and befriended more than a few of them.
Being an African of unknown ancestry (actually Lemba, but still relatively unknown) I learned a lot about many of them collectively, and as individuals. Many of these men and their partners were Christians. Some extremely learned and adept at the serious truths of scripture. And actually not all were hateful, even though a subset of their emotional currency and convictions could be categorized as hateful, while some of the people were indeed wretched and hateful and unclean in more ways (that had nothing to do with their hatred for nogs, mudsharks, wetbacks, and jews…not unlike many red pill Christian men, and other types like RooshV, Vox Day, Roissy and even a couple of red-pill women who blog…who I wont even name) than not.
But that’s not really the point of the story. It’s actually about truth.
Years ago, when I was on social media, which I have sworn off, I casually mentioned on a co-workers’ Facebook wall that we have a some white supremacists at our company. (This company was the de facto leader in Legal Online Research).
As it goes, my coworker was venting about how people (whom she thought she knew) were behaving at the prospect of having a black President. (It was right after he won his first Iowa primary). She, being biracial, was distressed by the white people in her Christian family who simply were verklempt at having this man as President. Which, while much had to do with his world-view and policies…she, being half, was also privy to a lot of the cognitive dissonance within her white half.
(Bear with me, this isn’t even about race at all, because I can visualize you clutching your pearls)
At this point is when I wrote, “you have to keep things in perspective, because you never know what’s truly in people’s hearts until something prompts them to share it“. Then I quoted:
You never know what your next door neighbor, your dental hygienist, your veterinarian, or your coworkers think until an event prompts them to speak from their heart.
However, even in this there are caveats. What I mean is that it just depends on what that is. Even pharisees were on point. Not only were they on point (spoke truth), but they were so, most of the time. It’s only Christians who are taught that pharisees were categorical jerks.
Now, to my point.
So it happened that one of our Vice Presidents happened to be friends with the woman on whose wall I wrote those comments.
About two weeks later, I was called into his office. He was concerned about what I wrote on this young lady’s wall. He wanted to know how I knew about these people, and how I knew these people were actual employees of our company, and he wanted to know their names.
I refused to give him any of this information. He, being, of all things, a white man, a liberal, and a homosexual, was flabbergasted that someone like me wouldn’t want to root out those kinds of people.
Here is what I told him:
“Human virtue and goodness (outside of having a criminal record) are not prerequisites for employment at any Fortune 100, 500, or any publicly traded company that I know of anywhere in this country, or in the world for that matter, and, nor is human perfection required even in any parish or church that I know of”
He was red-faced and pissed, I can’t believe what I’m hearing from you. You’re not one of those ‘I don’t snitch’ type of people are you?
I said, if we had a glimpse into foulness and treachery in hearts and thoughts and attitudes of the people here on this campus (the township in which we were headquartered), and used that as a measure to downsize, then half of the offices and cubicles here would be empty, and neither you or I would likely have ever met.
He said, I’m no longer in the mood to argue with you about this. And we never spoke of it again
My ex-wife, who was a VP in an HR firm, and who was friends with the VP in HR for the company I was working for at the time, told me that this man was undone at me, was confused at my attitude and behavior regarding this matter, saying that I was a “troubled” individual.
The truth hurt, and while we should speak the truth in love, it might feel unkind when it’s spoken, but it’s just as unkind to not speak it.
My point:
Red-pill praxeology that informs men, in no uncertain terms, of the perils the exist behind the door, is – in practice – a form of kindness, even when it’s unclear whether the champions of such praxeology are doing so in love.
Conversely, telling men to just have faith about what’s behind the door, or lying to them about what’s behind that door, and then getting all pissed at them because they are angry about being lied to or not being given a heads up about the perils within is some fucked up shit, ya’ll.
While I don’t believe in the wholesale process of taking people’s lessons from them, but with what’s at stake, throwing people under the bus, and then waging campaigns against them because they don’t want to take the bus any more – or they inform others about the perils of platforms at the bus station – is just…unkind.
Whether or not one agrees in the message of the medium…it’s all still vitally necessary.
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insanitybytes22 said:
What is unkind Pedat, is to refuse to speak the truth to those red pills who call themselves Christians. Feelings of chronic victim hood, persecution, and bitterness, are so seductive, they soon become an entire state of being, and addiction to your own misery.
It’s not the truth that those red pills preach, it is a deception rooted in nothing but idolatry and perpetual hatred.
You can’t serve two masters. One either subscribes to red pill “praxeology” or one serves Christ.
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Chanel Bailey said:
Love the candidness and blunt expressions on this one! I am a believer in the Gospel of Jesus Christ and live my life keeping the perspective that I will never be perfect as I try to aim to be as close to his image as possible. I shall keep focusing on that plank in my own eye as a reminder that harshly judging others is just not a reflection of his love. Nice Post:-)
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emilyy96 said:
Feminism is such a meaningless term now. The divide between the radical feminists and the moderate majority is so large that it’s impossible to know what someone means when they are referring to ‘feminism.’ On one hand you just have women who think that women should have the rights and freedoms that men do, but then you have the feminists who just despise men. I just had a two hour conversation where I was trying to convince some feminist girls that being able to murder your own babies via abortion is not ‘female empowerment.’
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DeniseBalog said:
Love to read the discussions:) I’ve never heard of a “red pill” Christian or any of the other Christian tag lines. I just know from reading about Jesus, wherever He went, He raised women (and men) up:) Enjoyed the post.
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Kentucky Angel said:
Ya know, I’m just glad God will be my judge, and not another human. Don’t like labels, and really, really dislike people who pin those labels on others as if they themselves are exempt from wearing a few themselves. I do love reading your posts, and wonder at times which Jesuit university you attended, because the only other times I’ve read this much insight is when I’ve read something written by a Jesuit scholar — like my brother, who now scoffs lovingly at the Jesuits.
It seems to be a human condition to blame others for our own shortcomings, a condition my son pointed out to me one day rather sharply, and something I have never forgotten. I’m not saying I am suddenly elevated above the human condition, but now I’m trying to watch how I speak and how I treat others. I do need a Redeemer, and I have one. I have experienced a MIRACLE in the past week, and I know they happen, just as I know my God lives and exists. He doesn’t discriminate, so I don’t discriminate. Nothing more to say.
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insanitybytes22 said:
Amen! Let’s hear it for miracles and for the God who delivers them! Every breath is a miracle, every heartbeat.
I am so glad God is the judge and not people, too. It’s a good thing I am not the Judge either, because I tend to be cranky and impatient sometimes. 😉
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Kentucky Angel said:
It depends on my mood at the time, but the way things are going lately it wouldn’t take much to get me to condemn some people to hell for some of the hateful remarks they make around here. I just couldn’t hurt people like that, but I sure could send one or two of the worst offenders to the nether world when they make some of my friends cry. And all in the name of Christianity? Give me a break!
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Modern Catholic Woman said:
It is interesting because two days before he wrote “You can’t be a feminist and A Christian,” I wrote a blog called something like “You can’t be a sincere Catholic and be pro-choice.” My post wasn’t about judging someone’s heart. My post was more about people rejecting Jesus’ teaching and creating God in the image and likeness of them instead of the other way around. Yes, you can be an alcoholic and be a Christian. However, if someone is telling people that God wants everyone to be alcoholics and you must be one – that’s heresy. His blog doesn’t make sense and, to be honest, he lost me after #3 of his list. The first 3 reasons cannot be blamed on feminist. I don’t agree with much of anything I read in his post. My Mom was not a feminist. My Dad had an affair and left my Mom when I was 2 and my brother was 2 weeks old. I’m almost 50 now and my Dad still owes my Mom child support. I know that my story is not unique and so it pretty much knocks out his reasons why. For example-
1. “Destruction of patriarchy (male led families)” – My Dad left so no leading there.
2.”Destruction of family roles and responsibilities” – My Dad ran away from his responsibilities, he destroyed the family roles, not my Mom.
3 (A) “Advocacy of no fault divorce rips apart families.” – No fault divorce benefits men more than women. This is why single mothers are the largest group in poverty.
3 (B) “65-70% of divorces are initiated by women; of women with college degrees or higher it jumps to 90%”. – If this is true, it is because of abuse or abandonment on the part of the husband. I know no woman that left her husband just because.
3 (C) “Also of note, wife custody of children accounts for about 60% of the motivation for divorce.” -I think this is a flat out lie since women have custody when they are married. Giving up a two income home for custody that you already have doesn’t make sense.
This Also, his comment “Feminism is the promotion and glorification of rebellion,” doesn’t make sense to me since Jesus was rebel. As Christians (men and women), we promote and glorify Jesus’ rebellion because he came to save us. Catholics (men and women), are considered counter-cultural because of our faith. So I don’t get why “promotion and glorification of rebellion” is a bad thing. I also don’t think his definition of feminism is rebellion because it is mainstream secular thought – for now anyway.
Well, that is all I got and I need to go to bed. Thanks for posting, I enjoyed your post.
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insanitybytes22 said:
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. Men and women exist in symbiosis with one another and have since the beginning. We are bound together so we can no more point fingers at one half of the human race, than we can point fingers at the other. Besides, all this finger pointing just robs us of our own power.
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Eavan said:
““65-70% of divorces are initiated by women; of women with college degrees or higher it jumps to 90%”. – If this is true, it is because of abuse or abandonment on the part of the husband. I know no woman that left her husband just because.”
I am sincerely sorry that you and your family suffered from father abandonment. I can only imagine that pain.
However, many people know multiple women who left good husbands. One I know of left her husband because she disagreed about how to raise their sons. Four left because they found their “soulmate”, who happened to be another woman’s husband. Another left because her Christian husband didn’t “lead spiritually” the way she thought he should. One woman had an affair because her husband had to travel for work. One abandoned her husband and four children because she discovered she loved another woman. These are all Christian women. All of this happened in a very small population of people. All of these men are married to other women now and there’s no hint of abuse. I don’t personally know any man who has abandoned his family. I personally know most of these women or their children. My husband knows their abandoned husbands.
Our individual experiences don’t predict the general reality and the general reality is that women do toss out good men. In general, women are more unlikely to remain in an unhappy marriage than men are when there’s a way out because of our emotional nature; it hurts more than we feel we can bear to be unhappy. Men seem to have been given more resources for tolerating unhappiness.
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insanitybytes22 said:
Well said, Eavan. Anecdotes, our personal experiences, only tell a part of the story.
It’s actually a tough thing to guage, because what is a “good woman?”
What is a “good man?” We cannot see into people’s hearts, into their marriages, and yet we are forever picking sides, as if only one or the other is to blame.
I do not believe that men are given more resources for tolerating unhappiness. If that were true they would not have such high suicides rates.
We can say that “65-70% of divorces are initiated by women,” but that only measures who files the paperwork. Most divorces are initiated long before that. To suggest that women just can’t tolerate unhappiness is to be asking the wrong question. A better question would be, why are so many women unhappy?
I mean call me crazy, but I didn’t marry the man to be unhappy and miserable or because I have a particular fondness for suffering.;)
Also, in a backdoor way, that is rather demeaning to men. I mean, if women would just cope with misery better, we’d have less divorce? As if men equal misery and unhappiness? I’m laughing here, because I suppose sometimes they do, but that is not how the nature of our relationships are supposed to work.
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Eavan said:
“A better question would be, why are so many women unhappy?”
In my experience, much of women’s unhappiness is tied to their expectations for what marriage and their husbands should bring to them. When they are able to see that it’s not reasonable to expect a husband to meet all their expectations, especially because they don’t and can’t meet all of his, the source of much unhappiness is removed. Compassion for the experiences of husbands is also a good antidote.
How many people ever ask themselves whether what they expect from life would be reasonable in circumstances other than the ones we Americans find ourselves in? We of course don’t get married to be unhappy, but are we right to expect God to deliver what He never promised? We are promised joy if we follow God’s ways, but joy is not happiness – joy is not dependent on circumstances. Husbands are just people with all the pains, sufferings, sins, and difficulties that all good men struggle against. It pains me that so many women have little to no compassion for their husband’s struggles and yet expect him to have endless compassion for theirs. Or she can be a complaining shrew but let him once raise his voice or express dissatisfaction with her and she’s crying abuse. Why doesn’t it go both ways? Why are men not allowed to be humans?
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Modern Catholic Woman said:
I’m sorry you know so many women that left their husbands. This is not my experience so I don’t think I can comment on it. Although I’m sure that woman can also be irresponsible and self-centered. Also, I’m not quite sure how you define a good husband. I’m not saying you don’t know what one is, I’m saying your definition and mine could be completely different. I think that is a problem with many of today’s couples. They don’t talk about what is important. What a good marriage looks like in their eyes before they get married. Perhaps the problem lies with in their pre-marriage formation (or lack of) and not on feminism? Or, being self-centered and not focusing on the family as a whole? All I know is that the people that suffer the most in a divorce is the kids.
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Eavan said:
I’m married to a good husband for 32 years, so I do in fact know what a good husband is. He loves me and our children the best he can, provides for our family and protects us. He often doesn’t understand me, often doesn’t notice when I’m unhappy, often gets distracted by the stresses of his job, and sometimes lets me down. But so do I let him down and I want him to forgive me and have compassion for my struggles. Why should men not want the same?
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Modern Catholic Woman said:
Like I said before, I’m not saying you don’t know what a good husband is, I’m just saying that my definition could be different than yours. Marriage is a give and take. I never said men don’t deserve the same.
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Eavan said:
I didn’t intend to imply you say men don’t deserve the same – I think my comment lined up funny and made it look like I was responding specifically to you when I was actually responding to IB.
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Modern Catholic Woman said:
no worries
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Salvageable said:
This is a difficult concept to discuss. You can be a sinner and a Christian, of course–if not, there would be no Christians. But can you be an unrepentant sinner and a Christian? If you love the sin more than the Savior, if you attend festivals and march in parades to celebrate the sin, if you boast of the sin and demand that God and the world accept you just the way you are… are you then a Christian? In the end, I have to say yes, with one very large IF: if your repentance includes the concept of “cleanse me from my hidden faults,” acknowledging the sins that God sees and you don’t see, then I think you can be a Christian while still drinking too much, telling too many lies, or hating too much. After all, the sacrifice of Christ covers all sins, right? J.
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insanitybytes22 said:
It is a challenging issue, isn’t it? It’s something people have struggled with since forever, too. We are all sinners, but saints too, washed cleaned in the blood of the Lamb.
As to how much unrepentant sin one can continue to walk in and for how long? I don’t know! I know we will face consequences right here in this world and for that reason alone we should do everything we can to avail ourselves of His healing and mercy.
I don’t have any answers here, but I do know that we cannot go on forever loving sin more than the Savior. How long is forever? I can’t even answer that one. 😉
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Salvageable said:
Somewhere God has made a promise that we are being transformed into the likeness of his Son. This transformation happens on his schedule, not our schedule, but I trust the promise–I am confident that it is happening. J.
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insanitybytes22 said:
Me too! Let me just say that God is infinitely patient and gentle with us, and most kind, because if this transformation were to happen too fast, it would probably shatter us.
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Eavan said:
Perhaps it would be better to say men tolerate a higher level of unhappiness in marriage than women do. The suicide rate is very high for abandoned men. When a marriage hits a rough patch men tend to double down and plow through it, believing that things will get better. Women tend to think it’s forever, that the pain will never go away, and it’s in these patches that women seek divorce, which is particularly frustrating and sad because couples who weather the storms, who stay when they’re unhappy, who work through it, report a higher level of happiness afterwards. The older women I’ve chatted with, the ones who didn’t have an easy way out, all report periods of significant unhappiness interspersed with periods of significant bliss. You can’t go through life in close relationship with another human and be happy all the time. Even those couples who are sincerely and deeply in love will experience unhappiness, stress, storms, unbearable sadness when life slams into them. Sometimes marriage is very, very difficult for both spouses to the point of significant pain. It’s so easy to blame a spouse for unhappiness and so hard to look inside and to one’s relationship with God to weather storms. That’s the hard and rewarding way out – through it, not running from it. All women who marry believe they will be happy forever on the wedding day. What changes? You find out you married a man and not a god. When a couple comes to the place of accepting each other with all their faults and foibles and even having affection for the funny and irritating ways we in which we cope, that’s where true marital happiness happens. But this takes years and years of tolerating those faults, it takes practice and sacrifice and a determination to keep to one’s vow – as long as we both shall live.
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insanitybytes22 said:
Well, I have certainly been greatly blessed by sticking it out through the rough patches 😉
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Eavan said:
Yes, we have too, and there were some hairy ones. It’s worth the rough years to finally find the sweet spot. It seems to take a significant number of years to learn your own unique dance.
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Eavan said:
And my apologies for taking this off the topic of the OP. Regarding that topic, how can we blame people for being what they are, for seeing the world the only way they can see it? A girl who grows up with feminist glasses may not be rebellious at all, but merely sees the world through the glasses she is wearing, often not even aware she’s wearing glasses. We are all in rebellion against God in one way or another, as you point out, we all need to be sanctified.
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insanitybytes22 said:
Amen, Eavan! Even those red pills are trapped by the glasses they wear and often unaware they’re even wearing glasses. I can no more blame them for being who they are than I can blame feminists.
The problem arises however, when one is claiming Christ’s name, and using Him to back up ideology that has nothing to do with what Christ taught. That is just not a good idea because those of us in Christ are held to a higher standard and those who teach are held even more accountable than that.
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Eavan said:
We all see through a glass darkly and need the grace of humility and compassion toward others also trying to see through the glass. We all need God.
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Wally Fry said:
“You could even reach out to a feminist, perhaps share the gospel with her?”
Now, that’s just true of any of the groups that we like to rail against, isn’t it? Maybe if we quit assaulting them and began sharing Jesus with them, we would get better results.
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authorstephanieparkermckean said:
Brilliant! Just brilliant.
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