I just want to put this out there, I am spatially challenged. Not really, perhaps a better way of describing it is spatially divergent. I actually struggle with left and right, but I understand port and starboard perfectly. See the difference is that port and starboard never move whereas if I move my position your entire orientation will change and you will no longer be on my right. My brain just struggles to understand why in the world you would move, when it is actually my position that has shifted?
I am laughing here, but this is actually not a “defect,” meaning I have rescued several directionally challenged people in my life. I have a pretty good sense of direction. The other day I rescued some men from a big box store. I kid you not, they could not find the front of the store and were walking in circles for some time getting rather irritable about it.
I’m generally pretty good at instinctively finding North, in the woods or on a trail. My problem arises with East and West and not being quite sure if East is going to be to the port or starboard. Freeways make me crazy. When heading North, you must exit on the right to get on the road heading West….which is actually going to go South for the next 22 miles.
Ai yi yi. Make that make sense.
Being spatially challenged is more related to things like back up cameras. Yeah, turn it off, it’s going to serve no useful purpose for me. I cannot look at things backward and upside down and translate that into some kind of spatially coherent message. Which leads me to what triggered this entire rant. Samsung has been working on putting video screens on big delivery trucks so that when you approach one you can actually see around them and determine if it is safe to pass and how to not only avoid being in their blind spot, but how to see beyond your own.
Something I frequently say to people is, I do not multi task. Do not ask me to focus on multiple things at once. This can be a source of great pride these days so it takes a bit of effort to maintain my refusal. People often scoff at me. These days we’re all about hacks and efficiency and seriously overestimating our own abilities so such ideas are very unfashionable. Too bad, refuse to multi task, I tell ya. It’s actually kind of exploitative and you have the right to protect yourself from multiple demands.
All in good humor here, I actually jest a bit about being spatially challenged. It is true enough, it is just that I am probably less spatially challenged than about 65% of the population. That’s a totally made up number, I’m just saying whereas I am keenly aware of my own spatial challenges, a huge percentage of the population clearly is not. People’s tendency to overestimate their ability to multi task and to spatially translate multiple sources of information is downright terrifying to me.
So if all these giant screens start showing up on the cars in front of us, let the record show, I will be walking.
See, there's this thing called biology... 
I become extremely uncomfortable when in a dizzying environment. That just about covers life on earth eh?
The dizzy speeches of Kam Harris, the incoherence of Joe B, the dizzy and ditsy policies where murderers get away with parking tickets, the skill-less late show tv hosts who pretend to be funny as they are front men for left wing goons, the dizzy Squad members who want to see NOT the American flag blow free, the Idiot women from the View- whose views are poison with a smile, the casting of decent people as ‘deplorable’ who are only law abiding and God fearing.
These non thinking people, who cannot cohesively formulate an argument, are also the same ones who swear to the spinning ball theory. Why are we like these godless atheists? ( couldn’t resist here) lol
nice read msb-
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Amen, Colorstorm! I am a big fan of that verse about how “God is not the author of confusion.” Thank God, because the world is plumb full of distractions and confusions. That’s part of what makes spending time out in nature so soothing, there is a gentle order to it, some rhyme and reason that really reflects the nature of God Himself.
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True. God does speak through nature.
Reminds me tho back in the day…… when the skyscraper went up – and tongues were confounded, imagine people trying to communicate in languages that prob. sounded demonic to them.
THAT incident God dealt with in the best way possible, and years later the antidote was Pentacost where the tongues once more proved the goodness of the Almighty.
Like u, I have an innate sense for North, (and also what could be termed what is correct……) as do beavers, birds, geese flying overhead, bees, places/ things/ and where confusion is just plain not welcome.
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Those who cannot accept that the Earth is a sphere (or spheroid) probably should not be calling others “non-thinking people.”
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Let’s not cloud up Ibs post with side trips. ( do visit my blog and scan the posts) But maybe you are one special person? Apparently you are the only person, dead or alive, who has seen the earth spinning. Good for you.
But the bigger picture is how things are accepted as fact or theory, ie, the examples I gave.
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You introduced the “side trip” in your comment when you described those who think the Earth is a rotating sphere as “non-thinkers.” This is your “side trip.”
Yes, the question is how are things accepted as facts or theory.
So, here we have a fact. The Earth is a sphere. You accept this as a fact? How do you accept this or not accept this? What does a “thinker” accept or not accept and why?
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I mentioned K. Harris and JB as perfect examples of people who cannot articulate a thought. They are ‘spacially’ aloof, as Harris’s tongue chokes her, and Joe doesn’t know left from write. Ask them about your curve Ball, and they will parrot what most people do, WITHOUT THINKING…….and assume, never thinking about a possible alternative.
See what ‘non thinking ‘ is in context? Now then, there are myriads of people ( our wonderful host here too) who actually pondered alternatives, and while maybe not convinced, commends those who dare to challenge the sacred cows of ‘science.’
To cite her and an others as unthinking, is pure stupidity on your part. I’m pretty sure she will stand with me on this.
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“To cite her and an others as unthinking, is pure stupidity on your part.”
Hold on. Are you suggesting that I described IB as “unthinking?” Where did I “cite” IB as “unthinking?” I’ve only addressed your thoughts and beliefs about the shape of the Earth and no one else’s. Please to do not attribute positions to me that I did not take.
Ok. You’re a thinker, and others are not thinkers. You’ve pondered the alternatives. So, Thinker, is the Earth a sphere? If not, what is it’s shape? What is the alternative? Tell me what all of those parroting non-thinkers missed.
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Every word I said needs no further clarification.
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Actually, most of your words need clarification as you seem to be having difficulty giving a straight answer here. You’re a thinker amongst the non-thinkers. So, surely, you can answer a simple, basic question in astronomy and explain how you’ve come to accept your answer as a fact. Isn’t this what this is about? The bigger picture of how things are accepted as fact or theory?
Is the Earth a sphere? You only need one word to answer this one.
And since you respect greater thinkers, perhaps you will admire this recent analysis of the Battle of Gettysburg.
“I go to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania to look and to watch. And the statement of Robert E. Lee, who’s no longer in favor. Did you ever notice that? No longer in favor. “Never fight uphill, me boys, never fight uphill.” They were fighting uphill. He said, “Wow, that was a big mistake.” He lost his great general and they were fighting. “Never fight uphill, me boys.” But it was too late.”
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‘spacially challenged’ Josh is the context here. Not sure why u are being obtuse.
I am the thinker among the non? Who said that? Once more, the context of ‘non thinking people’ is ANYBODY who has never thought about an alternative to a spin ball- this obviously qualifies themselves as the nons. So what. I haven’t thought about how many pages there are in the Library of Congress. But I don’t pretend to be an expert.
Again, because of your lack of coherence to follow an argument, HARRIS, JB, are perfect examples that they are quite clouded when they try to carry their points/
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“I am the thinker among the non? Who said that?”
Well, since you criticized those who were “non-thinkers,” one presumes that you must think that you are different, that is, you must think you are a thinker. Otherwise, your comment is self-abusive.
So, you’ve thought about the shape of the Earth while others haven’t. So, you’ve thought about alternatives and others haven’t. You’re not a non-thinker. Good for you.
So, having thought, what did you conclude and how did you come to accept your conclusions? Non-thinkers are dying to know. For all your thinking, you can’t seem to produce an answer or an explanation for your conclusion.
What is “obtuse” about the following question? Is the Earth a sphere? Seem like a clear question to me.
Speaking of “clouded thinking” when carrying a point, what did you think of the “coherence” of the Gettysburg analysis?
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Tkx for the compliment in not answering ‘a straight quest.’ Do u think I am dumb enough to accept a snare? I know where these convos lead. A thousand comments with nothing settled.
How about your own thoughts on ‘spacially’ etc. Get on track.
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Asking about the shape of the Earth is a “snare?” Seriously? How is this a snare? It’s a simple question with a simple answer. No snares here unless you’re afraid of giving a straight answer.
The Earth is a sphere. It’s a fact. It doesn’t take a thousand comments to reach this conclusion unless one is determined to reject reality.
Get on track? I’ve been on track, responding directly to comments that you made before I jumped on the track. You wanted to talk about how things are accepted as fact or theory and you brought up the shape of the Earth. Ok, no problem. But it’s difficult to discuss these things when you cannot or will not tell me what the facts are about the shape of the Earth.
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It’s a snare because the only purpose of your question is a desire to mock “flat earthers” so you can proceed to celebrate the vast moral superiority of spherical pride.
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No, I just want a straight answer so we can discuss how we know the Earth is spherical. CS raised the question about how things are accepted as fact and theory. It’s a good question. So, let’s discuss it. But first it’s necessary to know his position on what we are discussing. But he doesn’t want to give a straight answer. Why not?
Knowing something as blindingly obvious as the Earth is a sphere really doesn’t do much my sense of “moral superiority” or “pride.” Who *doesn’t* know the Earth is a sphere? Being a “round-earther” is hardly something to be proud about. It’s like being proud because you know gravity existed. As for “moral superiority,” I’m not the one who described those I disagree with as “dizzy,” “ditzy,” “inarticulate,” and “non-thinkers.” I suspect that I’m not the only one here who might hear a sense of “moral superiority.” I’d hardly be the only “mocker” in this exchange, but I guess it’s only a problem when I do it, right?
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Okay, Josh, here’s where i stand. Joe Biden and Kamela Harris couldn’t form a coherent thought whether they were standing on a flat earth or a spherical one. “Dizzy, ditzy, and inarticulate” are far too kind.
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world class answer. Five stars.
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Still no answer on the shape of the Earth? That would be too embarrassing, I guess. Still no answer on the question of how something is accepted as fact? Well then, I guess all we have are subjective opinions, including opinions about Harris and Biden.
So, what’s your opinion of that analysis of the Battle of Gettysburg?
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No opinion on the “Gettysburg Address?” What happened to your keen eye for ditzy, dizzy, incoherent, and inarticulate? Not to mention profoundly ignorant about American history and showing signs of serious mental decline.
Ah, but this is different, right?
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I find the continued push to multitask amusing and indicative of the continuing insanity of trying to make untrue what is true. Numerous studies have been done that show multitasking is not only inefficient but produces poorer and poorer results. So, I keep working at trying to not multitask, not including playing mindless computer games when I’m listening to podcasts. I enjoy the podcasts, but my mind wanders if I don’t have something to keep me busy.
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Right?! It’s totally okay to keep your hands busy while you are listening to something. Or perhaps to read while sunbathing, LOL! The hardest one for me not to multitask is eating. I try to resist the urge to read an article or turn on the TV or just grab something on the run and get in the car.
Unfortunately I think a lot of our multitasking culture has to do with making money so employers seem to want people to do 3 jobs at once and people want to have side hustles. No surprise many of us now have major addictions to caffeine and chronic attention deficit disorders.
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Exactly.
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Einstein had a formula for working through space and time… and it’s all about where you are at.
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LOL, very true.
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We used to live in Port Huron, Michigan, where north was to the left and south was to the right when facing the lake. In the summer we’d go to the family home on Lake Michigan, where it was the other way around. It’s weird when you have to determine which way is north by holding up your hand in a mitten shape and pointing to where you are.
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Ha! That is kind of weird, LOL! I’m so used to living in the North that any other context feels kind of foreign to me. But I am sure that North is “up” and South is “down.” Naturally a good chunk of people in this neck of the woods reverse that and throw me for a loop. I turn into a sudden grammar cop and insist there is no such thing as “up South” and “down North.” I do understand why one might say “out West” and “back East,” however.
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I seem to recall there are places in the Bible where they talk about going “up to Jerusalem,” even though they’re going south. The note in the study Bible said the term “up” referred to going uphill. (Don’t quote me on that, though.)
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How interesting! I’ll have to check out some of that directional information in the Bible.
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Screens on big trucks??? I have rude words for that! Life is quite complicated enough without more distractions.
As to walking perhaps that is part of the globalist agenda. Better for you of course. I like my bicycle best, at least for covering distances reasonably quickly.
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Bravissimo! I suspect that some of us know where we are well enough but lose track of everything and everybody else. Others seem to know exactly what surrounds them but can’t seem to relate to it. And the rest of us just fumble around most of the time, A surmise: it’s genetic!
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I have considered a bit more. I thought spatially challenged meant ‘lost’. I see that being spatially challenged must be a headache.
Which is understandable as ‘spatially challenged’ anagrams to ‘ltd sly encephalalgia’. Encephalalgia is head pain.
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/encephalalgia
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LOL! Spatially challenged could probably mean “lost in space.” Head pain or a pain in the rear that’s for sure!
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Love, love, love this! Driving in the UK, I’m on the wrong side of the road from the US where I have spent the vast majority of my life. Left and right turns are always backwards to me because you turn across the traffic here to go right – and with the traffic to go left. Of course, I also have no sense of direction! I would be wandering around the box store waiting for you to come along and rescue me!
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