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“Nobody has ever seen an electron. Nor a thought. You can’t see a thought, you can’t measure, weigh, nor taste it- but thoughts are the most real things in the Galaxy.” – Robert Heinlein
A lot of very real things are invisible to the human eye and simply cannot be weighed and measured.
People are not animals. This can be a very challenging thing to believe in on account of the fact that people often act so poorly they start to resemble animals. I suppose that is part of what debunks the, “people are animals” lie. No self respecting animal would ever act so foolishly.
Calling people “animals” doesn’t insult people, it dishonors animals. Animals behave in a somewhat logical and predictable manner. Ironically the only time you really see them being neurotic and dysfunctional is after too much exposure to humans.
Animals also do not sit around contemplating the nature of their existence, lamenting their place in creation, and wondering what their purpose is. People like to try to pretend we only do that due to our alleged, “higher intelligence.” Apparently our vastly superior wisdom is also responsible for our destructive ways, our perpetual self loathing, and the way we like to constantly teeter ourselves on the edge of extinction?
So it seems. I’m not sure if we need to change our definition of “highly intelligent” or if I just need to change my attitude towards people? Probably both. Regardless, that is totally incongruent thinking.
Why would “mother nature” create a creature that is not only hellbent on destroying himself, but apparently hellbent on destroying her, too? If this is what “survival of the fittest” looks like, we seem to have left off the “survival” part.
Many evolutionary theories are so illogical they require one to completely suspend one’s disbelief. Sharks for example, allegedly have really needed no adaptation, having been designed perfectly for their environment the first time around, an environment that has somehow managed to remained relatively unchanged for millions of years. The rest of us seem to be living on an ever changing planet requiring us to adapt or die, but fortunately the sharks, crocodiles, and cockroaches have been enjoying environmental consistency and therefore are not really motivated to mend their ways. They got a good thing going and have absolutely no reason to “evolve already.”
The same is true of the great apes, I suppose. They took one look at us, we who are supposed to be their cousins, and voted to just stay out of the evolutionary lottery. Nah, you guys go “advance” and “evolve,” we’re staying put. A bit amusing, “Planet of the Apes” and several other sci/fi notions have suggested we humans might be the genetic fluke, the mutants, the regressive gene nobody really wants in their gene pool.
That is a distinct possibility and somewhat plausible….
For some reason human pride and arrogance often lead us to conclude, with absolutely no evidence mind you, that humans are progressing, evolving, and improving like some kind of apex predator or something. Naturally there will soon be some kind of spontaneous enlightenment thingy, where some of us will become more evolved than the others and we will break away from them and start making the world around us look like it was designed by the highly evolved creatures we fancy ourselves to be.
Such notions require an astounding amount of hope and a near impossible suspension of disbelief. I’m rather envious of the atheists and nihilists who can pull it off. I’m not even sure what the official name is for the totally random, Spontaneous Enlightenment Thingy, but we shall henceforth call it SET.
As in the Great ReSET.
When I sit up here on high in my lofty intellectual tower sipping my coffee, I just have to laugh about all the gender stuff going on. No seriously, people! One simply cannot proudly proclaim one believes in nothing but hard data, in the purity of observable reality, in the alleged holiness of science, while also promptly declaring biological sex to be nothing more than a social construct, a whim of fancy.
This is some mighty convenient science, rather fluid and evolving itself. Sheesh, today you can just use your imagination and identify as anything you want. Darkly humorous, but apparently no one is really interested in self identifying as well reasoned, logical, or intelligent? A wise old owl? A magical sea lion? James Bond?? Oh no, if we really can just self identify as anything we want to, than I really want to be the caricature of a very aggressive, sexualized, unintelligent, dysfunctional, mentally ill young girl with unstable hormones.
Wait…Wut? Why?
I’ll refrain from posting video clips as evidence, but I assure you that is exactly what is out on our streets currently throwing rotten vegitables at those they call TERFS. A “terf” for those who don’t know is a, “trans-exclusionary radical feminist.” It’s a very derogatory term, intended to be demeaning. So is the very masculine, very threatening, sexualized language being flung around by those demanding their right to be chest feeders and users of menstrual products.
So is this just evolution doing it’s thing? Asking for a friend, of course.
See, there's this thing called biology... 
Your opening reminds me of Jeff Goldblum in The Fly: ” Have you ever heard of… insect… politics? Neither have I. Insects… don’t have politics. They’re very brutal. No compassion, no compromise.”
But, I digress…
I think that the insane left has inadvertently killed off affirmative action and women’s rights. How? Well, as a white male, I can now self-identify as any of the protected classes of minorities when interviewing for a job. Goodbye affirmative action. How can you promote women’s rights when you can’t or refuse to define what a woman is? SCOTUS judge Ketanji Brown can’t seem to.
Eventually, these lunatics will have woven a web so tangled, that they’ll never be able to extricate themselves from it.
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Ahh, The Fly! That’s another good tale.
Yep, the current culture has pretty much killed off affirmative action and women’s rights. Also, the notion of families, election integrity, and multiple store windows and businesses.
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“When the dog bites
When the bee stings
When I’m feeling sad
I simply remember my favorite things
And then I don’t feel so bad”
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There should be a song to those lyrics……. maybe even a movie or musical……
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Yeah, my go to line is ‘they are actually like hyenas, with apologies to hyenas.’
There is scriptural precedence to be careful not to be brute beasts, that is, not to devour each other like the appetite of a lion who wants gazelle for breakfast.
I do like the initial idea of yours about electrical things; ie, you really can’t see it, but only a fool would deny the reality. So most certainly there is ‘evidence of things not seen,’ as faith is an asset not a liability, so your atheist/ evo- friends have no answer.
And don’t even get me started on gender identity. I’m pretty sure men do not have placentas and the hospital L&D wards have FEW males who have delivered daughters……
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Ha! I actually did not fully understand what “bite and devour” meant in a Biblical context until social media was created and showed me what that looks like in human form. Ahh, so now I get it. Apologies to hyenas, indeed.
This gender identity stuff is both tragic and maddening, but it does expose some truths about the human condition, none of which seem to point to biology. This is not natural behavior, so we are either afflicted with deep seated psychological disorders or spiritual ones or both. I say “we,” because we as a culture are enabling, condoning, and advocating in favor of it all.
We actually do have a big sign on the door of L&D that does say we affirm and provide care for all “pregnant persons” regardless of gender.
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All this behaviour you disagree with would not disappear simply because you believe we are enabling, condoning, and advocating in favor of it all. This has always happened in secret, hidden behind closed doors and has done since man walked on the Earth, therefore it is a natural phenomenon if it is a mental, biological, DNA or any other factor that arises to confuse the gender process. It is a fact that we are not all born equal or as we would have liked to have been born, it is the randomness of life that is in many ways an inherent feature of evolutionary biology and genetics. You simply cannot do anything about it.
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So, we are supposed to approve of insanely stupid behavior because otherwise this insanely stupid behavior will occur in secret?
Actually, when we don’t approve of insanely stupid behavior and we actively encourage the behavior we want and discourage the behavior we don’t want, we get more of the behavior we want and less of the behavior we don’t want.
It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that we are both a product of our environment and a product of our genetic code. When we are taught to discipline ourselves and behave well, we tend to do so.
Do we ever behave perfectly? No, but giving up just because we cannot achieve perfection is a rather silly thing to do, but that is what you have just advocated.
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It is not some people wanting to act insanely stupid or otherwise, like I have said it is a natural phenomenon if it is a mental, biological, DNA or any other factor that arises to confuse the gender process of some people. Animals have homosexual behaviours, not that any of this will register or be considered and investigated with a theistic mindset.
“It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that we are both a product of our environment and a product of our genetic code.”
Agreed, the genetic code is not perfect or else we would all be the same perfectness, obviously the evidence of this is the reason we have gamblers, alcoholics, murderers, rapists and paedophiles and it is likely an environmental event became the trigger for the transition for many of these people.
Andrea Ganna, lead author and European Molecular Biology Laboratory group leader at the Institute of Molecular Medicine in Finland, said the research reinforces the understanding that same-sex sexual behavior is simply “a natural part of our diversity as a species.” Just as the diversities I have mentioned, our brains are powerful but cannot remove our imperfections, we will always have them, there is no perfection, your Bible even claims that, human diversity is a huge part of life and we have no choice but to accept that.
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Exactly!
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‘Animals have homosexual behavior.’ Yep, some do, as there are turkeys who eat acorns, and alligators who eat ducks. But you fellas are saying it is perfectly ‘natural’ if turkeys ate ducks…….
See the dilemma you are trying to defend. And no, nobody is saying ‘homosexuals’ are not decent people. Some of the most polite people I know have chosen that route.
But don’t expect people to cave under the pressure of ‘everything’s alright.’ Your own science condemns such narratives. Biology is a killer when properly used. See, there is this male and female thing….
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Colorstorm, I think Doug and Skyl are swallowing a false narrative when they try to suggest that being transgendered is somehow related to being homosexual. That is certainly the narrative that was sold to us as “T” was deliberately added to the LGB. However, a vast majority of these people are not questioning their sexual orientation at all. Therefore a man who wants to transition to a “woman,” often proclaims he will continue to desire relationships with women. This is part of the conflict going on, on our streets right now. It is not even about “Christians want to oppress gays,” but rather the alleged science is all incoherent and contradictory.
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Yeah msb,
That’s a brave new world that I just can’t ‘conform’ to. 😉
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In a way I can agree simply because of the imprinting of my own existence finds their open displays of affection and/or body manipulation in opposition to my norms. I am more “perturbed” because socially I have to do cartwheels (a metaphor) over their parades and openness in public or I will be looked upon as being some sort of homophobe. The fact that the whole thing confuses me socially offends me a bit. In the end they are all simply human beings and I try to focus on that.
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Being transgendered, homosexual, or anything else… is a matter of personal choice based upon any number of human influences.. again.. the usual combination of nature vs. nurture.
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So I heard doing there was a gal who wanted to marry her horse, or was it a turtle?
What rational person would officiate the ceremony? How could you possibly defend nature or nurture?
Or is it ok’ to say – whatever floats your boat?’
Would it not be easier to say that ship has already sunk…../
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I think I might have ventured a better explanation in an earlier reply in here perhaps you’ve not gotten to yet.
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Oh, no, no… simply because some behavior, tendency, some elements of human existence can be attributed to the natural variety of mankind does NOT mean in the least that it should be accepted in the context of affecting others. Simply look at the Ten Commandments.. each one is directly playing against a foible of man that can be defined as anti-social behavior… or, a “sin” in order to assign guilt as a deterrent.
You mentioned the male/female “thing”… well, that is more the entire reason for all things human. Per science, we were evolved simply in order to procreate as does every other living thing. While the bulk of the animal world operates on instinct humans operate to “survive” to procreate based on our ability to reason (which can and is affected by nature vs. nurture elements of personal existence), and being able to change/adapt a bit of our environment with our opposing thumbs. So.. no.. the idea that “the devil made me do it” as an explanation to simply accept human inconsistencies without accepting personal responsibility for them, would not be my opinion.
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Eh, let’s leave the devil out of this. For now.
As to the 10 commandments being a deterrent to vice, etc. Nope.
A righteous man does not need to be reminded not to steal his neighbors cow- or wife……
The big ten serve a far greater purpose, notably to be found in that wonderful book of logic and truth called Romans, where that theme is developed quite nicely.
But do consider ‘honor thy father and mother,’ so what comes along with this that anybody could fault….
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I’ll not question/debate spiritual faith as I consider that personal. I was rather applying science to explain the origins of behavior, not to justify but to explain motives. This can help to solve the always asked question following a crime… why? From there maybe we can learn how to try and avoid the same circumstances.
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Tks Doug, but the impasse is that science CANNOT explain the origins of behavior.
It’s that tricky word- origins.
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You mean as it might relate to some DNA identifier.. or.. some component(s) to life experience (the old nature vs. nurture)? Certainly not now given we are limited by technology and research. (Example… how two soldiers experiencing war can come back normal or with debilitating PTSD from the same experience.)
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Yeah! Liberal Democrats and Atheists are just great at accepting diversity except when anyone disagrees with them. Then it’s continual charges of hate speech, racism, homophobia, sexism, white supremacy, election denial, climate denial,….,, and it is censors every which way we turn.
Donald Trump still cannot get on Facebook or Twitter. It is a cinch Google searches discriminate against Trump.
Is it actually that difficult to understand why Liberal Democrats are soft on crime, unable to support even the most commonsense behavioral standards? No. History provides numerous examples.
sklyjd, do I think you honestly believe what you say? Yes, but I also think you a thoroughly indoctrinated. Why? Been there. Thought that and done that. Government-run schools were practically invented in America.
Still, with a little effort, we can get pass the indoctrination. We can read primary source documents, histories written by those who lived it. Philosophies written by those who invented and implemented great ideas.
So, if we take the time to understand, we can learn how Socialism works in practice. One of the odd things about various Communist regimes is that during their many and various purges actual crooks and murderers often get better treatment in the gulags than political prisoners.
Disagree with the Communist Party and its rule, and the regime will throw the book at you and enthusiastically torture you. Rob a bank and the regime will just stick you in jail until they figure out whether or not you can be made useful to them. After all, skilled technocrats who are willing to look the other way when Big Brother punishes its political opponents are relatively easy to find, However, every regime led by thugs can always needs more thugs to do its real work, that which it does under the cover of the dark of night.
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Hmn – Does human behavior stray any farther from human DNA than the behavior of other species of animals, do you think?
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Yes, I think so.
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Then, could not stochastic models of selected patterns of behavior be compared for similarity/difference? Or has that been done? I can imagine quite a funding problem …
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Insanity bytes
Your question….
“Why would “mother nature” create a creature that is not only hellbent on destroying himself, but apparently hellbent on destroying her,
Mother nature is not a human, and anyone who studies history will discern the only species that has proven over time to engage in destroying themselves are humans.
And it doesn’t matter what type of government they experienced,
Anocracy. Aristocracy. Ergatocracy. Gerontocracy. Kleptocracy. Kritarchy. Nomocracy. Particracy. Plutocracy. Stratocracy. Or Democracy,
Sad, and I yes I also agree “It’s a very derogatory term, intended to be demeaning.’
we humans just can seem to wise up, in my opinion.
Regards and goodwill blogging.
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So true, Rudy! Those of us who observe such things can’t help but notice there is just something really self destructive about humans. I can’t explain that using the language of science. We try to dismiss it all as “mental health disorders,” but that just begs the question, so why is so much of the human race allegedly so ill? And of course there really isn’t a gene or a blood test for “mental health,” so we have no way of even measuring that in a concrete way in the first place.
At the end of the day I have no other reasonable conclusion except for sin and supernatural forces interfering with our potential.
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Isanitybytes.
Why so many ill?
In my opinion. The majority started using recreational drugs
Regards and goodwill blogging
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“I have no other reasonable conclusion except for sin and supernatural forces interfering with our potential.”
That is an easy explanation for theists, however in the real world it is humans just being humans in regards to wars, climate change, discrimination, racism, criminal activities etc, etc. With almost 8 billion people on the planet and the increasing natural disasters life is going to get a whole lot tougher.
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Tom, Recent history tells us that anti-talk about anyone of race, gender, religion or sexual orientation will become violent and could cause death. Hitler turned his country against the Jews, then he turned his country against Europe and as we say the rest is history, however a majority of his country suddenly hated Jews due to his speeches and many of them were Christians. We can also look at our own back yards at racist crimes and the genocide that has taken place in any conflict you like on the planet and it all started with hate speeches, publications and media.
Donald Trump has successfully divided your country and tried to overthrow US democracy in case you did not notice. It appears that some Republicans have made noises about wanting to pull support from Ukraine, so I must ask why would they support a communist dictatorship and a mass murderer like Putin? Do they now want to have a similar government based on communism with no elections and with Trump as leader?
I do believe what I say and what ideology am I indoctrinated into? Ok I am indoctrinated into the non-extremities of life and the ideology of enjoying a cold beer. Ok since your extreme belief claims students are being indoctrinated into leftist political ideals by evil teachers what is the problem, the right wingers get them on Sundays in church and indoctrinate them into the political right flavour of Christianity?
Your assessment of the communist party is as good as any, not that I really care about communism or dictatorship that seem to be the direction many of the extremist Republicans want to go.
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