First let me say, almost no one wants to have an intelligent discussion about “Christian nationalism,” the term is simply being used as scare-mongering, and to dismiss and dehumanize the perceived enemy of the moment. Almost nobody wants to talk about it, although this person seems to have written a somewhat intelligent treatise, The Original Anti Christian Nationalist. Wrong on several points, but well written and worth the time just the same.
I happen to be a huge fan of James Madison’s ideas, so much so I actually have a child named after him. His “separation of church and state” was ironically designed more to protect the church from the influence of the state then it was to protect the state from the influence of the church. He made it quite clear that if you open that door, it becomes a two way passage. It is not so much that the church will begin telling the government what to do, it is that the government will start telling the church what to do. He wrote about preserving the greater purity of both.
He knew a thing or two about butter indulgences, royal marriage annulments, and rules for me but not for thee. Most of our founding fathers were escaping the monarchy of Britain and wanted something new. They knew all about the potential corruption and abuse of church power.
In some ways I am living out Madison’s fears and concerns here in the 9th circuit of hell. Contrary to superficial appearances, we are actually very religious, it is just that I am a heretic who can’t seem to get with the program. So when people say “Christian nationalism,” I assume we’ve already arrived and get all confused. 90% of our churches promptly shut down for covid, mandated vaccines, hoisted the rainbow flag, and about another 60% now demand you sign an oath to the “transgender agenda,” even though the details of that “agenda” are exceedingly vague.
And if you do not comply with this religious agenda, obviously you’re a heretic who hates Jesus. There are social implications.
Our city government actually threatened and shamed any churchians gathering in any form what so ever, including our homes, except for our rainbow church with the pastor who divorced his wife and married his husband. He was allowed to hold a drive in like service on unused school property. He also received some money under the guise of “covid relief funds” and it was only recently that another large donation of taxpayer funds to replace the church roof was even questioned. My point simply being, the secular and religious agenda here do hold hands, snuggle, and often make it to third base.
And woe be to anyone who even thinks to challenge that power system. A few women recently got assaulted while cops just stood down and the city council praised the behavior of the thugs. Thou shall not challenge our religious ideology unless one wants to hear, burn the witch. It has also been this way for decades, it is nothing new, it is just that a handful of people are beginning to notice.
People probably have heard my snarky references to churchians and my sometimes less then kind references to the alleged, “body of Christ.” How I feel about the church is complicated on account of the fact that what I often see passing as “the church” is not always the same utopian vision one might have in their own mind.
We can argue till the cows come home about what constitutes a church and how those just aren’t real churches, but you know we got the Presbyterians, the Methodists, the Lutherans, even the Catholics, and they all meet in church buildings, and they’re all part of a larger churchian structure, so for our purposes here, they are really churches wielding a great deal of secular power.
So that’s all I have to say today. I believe Madison was correct, his “separation of church and state” has been thoroughly vindicated, and the “whys” of why he believed what he did are currently being played out right here in the 9th circuit of hell.
So the whole concept of “Christian nationalism” is rather complex. It kind of depends on who is sitting at the head of your table. If it’s actually Jesus, I’m all for it. Alas, it is seldom going to be Jesus seated there.