This is a tricky one, because the last thing I want to do is make anyone feel bad about themselves. I honestly believe we can’t give away what we don’t have. So if we don’t know how to love our own selves, we certainly won’t be able to love anyone else properly.
You cannot love yourself, but more importantly you cannot receive the Lord’s love and grace, His forgiveness of sins, if you aren’t willing to develop some self awareness about who you really are. Honest self awareness. So rather than “making people feel bad about themselves,” I really just want to make some room for Christ to shine through.
You can’t just “be a good person” in faith. We aren’t saved by our good person status, just as “good people” are not protected from landslides, tornadoes, or car accidents out in the world. Being good does not protect you. We don’t earn grace by virtue of being “a good person.”
Sometimes Christians are the ones who need to understand this concept the most. At least in the West, we sometimes have this performance based religious spirit that tries to rear it’s ugly head.
So set Christianity and religious biases aside for just a moment, and let me draw from philosophy and psychology, perhaps the ancient Greeks and a bit of Carl Jung. It is necessary to know thyself in faith. “To thine own self be true.” All in good humor here, but if one can easily proclaim “I am a good person,” then one cannot possibly know thyself fully.
Yesterday yet another atheist told me, “I can’t believe you think you need a magic book to tell you how to be a good person.” Well, I really do! I think that without God we have no standard for what is “good,” without the Bible we have no ability to see ourselves as we really are, and without Jesus we have no way of fixing any of it.
Said atheist bases her own conviction that she is “a good person” on the idea that she only eats “plant based protein” and she rescues animals. That’s lovely, but I recently read an article about a couple of animal conservationists who cared about animals so, so much, they are now being investigated for the disappearance of several poachers! It was really creepy. So caring about animals is probably not the only marker we should be looking at.
We people tend to justify and rationalize or “rational-lies” nearly everything we do. We don’t really see our own shadow selves, we don’t see our capacity for “not good” and when we find ourselves there in that very place, we just rationalize and excuse it away. I’m not really a thief, I just borrowed some paperclips from work. I’m not really a liar, that was just a white lie. Was I suppose to tell her that dress she was wearing adds 40 pounds and resembles my grandmother’s table cloth?
I once knew a woman in the throes of addiction who stabbed her boyfriend in the leg a few times because she loved him “so, so much” and just wanted him to understand “what a good person” she really was. Obviously “good” can be a rather subjective matter of opinion.
Circumstances also play a significant role. I assure you I am a wonderful person when I have enough coffee, no scarcity operating in my life, and the birds are singing. Take away too much of my security, safety, and coffee and things can get sketchy fast. Heck, take my sweater away and turn on the air conditioning and my whole disposition can quickly change…
This is just personal opinion on my part, but I happen to believe that a great deal of what afflicts us as people, as communities, has to do with all the energy required to mask ourselves, to hide away our true nature, even from ourselves. Addiction, at least in the beginning, is certainly about trying to numb out and avoid pain. Many of our mental health issues, depression, anxiety, have to do with fear and avoidance. Much of our isolation, loneliness, and despair has to do with not realizing how much we are like everyone else, flaws and all.
There is a lot going on in Mark 10:18 where Jesus says, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.” So even Jesus, perfect, sin free, willing to lay down His life for all of humankind, objects to the “good” person label. What is “good” about Him is the Father. He is proclaiming His Divinity, establishing His identity, but He is also making the point that, “there is none righteous, not one.”
So my bit of truth today is, don’t wait until you are a “good person” to find Jesus and don’t think being a good person is good enough. As somebody smart once said, “Christians are not good people, they are saved people.”
Jesus said he came to save sinners. In other words we have to admit that we need his forgiveness and mercy before we get it. I’m studying history right now. Voltaire was known for his “religion” of rejecting Christianity and saying just be a good person. I think this lie of the devil is one his most powerful. And that’s such a good point of circumstances and how “good” we act. Try taking away air conditioning and internet from most people and see how long they are good. 😬
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Amen, I really believe this notion that we can “just be a good person” is such a powerful lie. It sounds reasonable on the surface, which I think is part of the deception.
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And who gets to define what a good person is?
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Reading prov 20 today, v9 says “who can say…”. I guess the unspoken, rhetorical answer is “no one”. I have met in my 56yrs many “good” people. My father being in the first rank. But I would say the “standard” isn’t goodness at all. You could look at the problem like swimming to Hawaii from San Francisco. Some can do “better” than others but No One is getting there under their own efforts. Jesus came to not only “get there” for us by taking our failure, weakness, and “sin” to the Cross, but also to give us LIFE in Himself as He has LIFE in Himself and from the Father. It’s the Principle and Gift of LIFE that motivates and activates us to Live as He lives and Do as He does… not the other way round. In Galatians, Colossians, Romans and 1 Corinthians over and over are we told that “we are dead” and our only Life comes as as Supply of His Life… the Life of Jesus as the Only Source of Life. Good? Good enough? Better than…?
Nah, it’s LIFE that we need. “…and your Life is hid (gathered with) with Christ in God”. As He has Life in Himself… so do we in Him.
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Amen, yes, I think I agree. The more time we spend with Jesus the more life we get in us and the more like Him we become. We are the company we keep!
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I’m not sure I’d agree fully with the “the more time we spend…the more life” as if we can have more or less of the Life Supply. I would say it’s more of a having a moment by moment readiness to turn every thing, every circumstance, every “environment” over to the Life of Jesus that is already there and Alive in Fulness. “Dead men have no life” to do handle properly the environments we come in contact with. We have no life to give or experience apart from the Life of Jesus living and residing IN us and THRU us. I hope I’m not making myself unclear.
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The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Sometimes it’s a blur when they all can look alike.
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Right?! It can be just maddening.
On the bright side, it’s a huge blessing to not be burdened by the “good person identity” and all the maintenance and baggage that goes along with it. Putting that down kind of sets you free to actually start going in the right direction.
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Baggage. Ha.
When the Good Shepherd delayed to the grave of Lazarus- the two sisters thought ‘hmm, doesn’t seem good to me.’
So there’s the rub. Not enough information, which leads to wrong conclusions.
But how many times do you hear ‘I am a good person.’ Sure, and a drunk is good if he buys his mate another drink.
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Exactly, Colorstorm! Addiction is a really good example of some of the moral complexity involved. Do you buy the guy another drink, hand him his car keys, and congratulate yourself for being such a good friend? And are you still good when he crashes his car?
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Heard you speak of the enabling by people- only to be harassed. Saying ‘no’ can be tough love.
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On what you said about the people that rescue animals I do that all three of my cats are rescues, but I still value human life more and you are right that is creepy. I was recently in a conversation about pets passing away and several of these people said it hurt more than losing a loved one as in human. As a person that has lost a child I disagreed with that in a very strong way. Last year I lost a cat I had for 22 years he was 25 years old and I won’t lie it really hurt a lot. but never as much as losing my daughter. I love my cats (even the insane kitten who still tears up my kitchen and now hunts forks in the sink) but they can never hurt as much as my loved ones.
I know I am not a good person or even nice sometimes. Step on my wrong side too hard and a person will find my mouth has no filter. A few people have called me nice and I tell them I am not a nice person, but will treat you how you treat me. I know this wrong and I am working on correcting it, but change takes time and people need to stay off my last nerve. I have seen my ugly side most of my life and I am changing, but the good thing is when I found Jesus He took me just as I am and I will not be perfect until the day I leave this earth.
It always annoys me when people say if you lie to me we are done as if they have never lied or even never lied to you because they probably have. Women tell men don’t lie to me, but you better not tell me I look fat in something, or that hair style looks terrible on you. We tell our kids lying is bad then tell them for years Santa is real and so is the Easter bunny.
Nope people are not good no matter how much they think they are. As for people only eating plants and that makes them good plants are living things as well. It was actually proven if you damage or kill a plant that is growing next to another plant the surviving plants goes through extreme stress. Fact of the matter is all living things eat things that are living or were once living. So those people are not as good as they think they are.
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LOL! Great comment. I am pleased you agree that people are not good no matter how good we think we are. The good news is that, “while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”
I didn’t even talk about America, but our founding fathers seemed to understand that we aren’t just by nature, good. They set up 3 branches of government and a system of checks and balances for that very reason.
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Like you IB I grew up in a home where I knew from a pretty young age people are not good and was verified by the world as i grew and as I said I have seen my bad side most of my younger life. It is still in there to some degree and that is a part of our sin nature that will not leave while we are here.
As for the government our forefathers did try and it was a good effort, but with all things it is failing and it is now failing fast. I question if we will survive this current administration.
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You are right, perhaps growing up on the darker side of things has given us some clarity and wisdom.
I hear you about our country! These are really challenging times. I’m a perpetual optimist about America, however. I think were going to make it.
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To think that Christ Himself said “why do you call me good? There is none good but God.”
Wow. That is right up there with His cursing of the fig tree…
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