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Having a chuckle here, but it seems as if all the twitterlogians of last week have suddenly become infectious disease specialists? This virus may or may not get me, but I am absolutely certain I shall not long survive all the virtue signaling….
Anyway, during the course of human events, while attempting to explain to someone that washing your hands with Lysol was totally unnecessary and possibly dangerous, up popped the accusation, “you’re not an infectious disease specialist!”
Actually I am! I totally am, which made me laugh because I actually do have that “credential.” It’s probably expired now on account of the fact that I am often too cheap to pay my renewal fees and I tend to have little or no respect for red tape. I am also chuckling because that is exactly what it says, my name written right above the words, “infectious disease specialist.”
What you might ask, is a “specialist?” A glorified housekeeper! It’s nothing to sneeze at, I actually had to sit through a class on blood born pathogens and how to properly handle and dispose of assorted forms of human biological goo. Not for the faint of heart, I assure you.
I also have a great deal of hands on field experience, but I digress. My point being, I actually do have the credential, so I shall now offer you the expert opinion free of charge.
The very best germ killer ever is still soap and water. Wash your hands with soap and water. Sing the birthday song twice. Say the Lord’s prayer. Whatever tickles your fancy, just slow it down and take the time to do it properly. In fact, wash anything you possibly can with soapy water, like clothing, bedding, towels. Most germs are very weak when confronted with soap and water. They collapse! It’s kind of a more analogical description then a scientific one, but they have an outer layer that is basically fat and soap melts it. Imagine breaking an egg. Thus ends any possibility of a hatched chick!
That shell is the difference between a vehicle for reproduction and an omelette.
A bit of very diluted bleach mixed with water is good for wiping down things like door nobs that you may not wish to suds up with soap and water and then try rinse off. Very diluted bleach! The CDC advises using a bleach solution of 4 teaspoons bleach per quart of water. That is a strong, very, heavy bleach mixture. Generally for food surfaces it is something more like a tablespoon in a gallon of water. Do not make it stronger, this does not make it better. Bleach is also toxic and should NEVER be mixed with other chemicals.
So, soap and hot water is far superior to hand sanitizers. It is also probably more effective than disinfecting wipes or Lysol. In fact, way back when Lysol was first marketed to us it was actually advertised as a douche for women and also as a form of birth control. This is an appalling, horrific, and potentially dangerous use of Lysol, but it’s historical truth. I only mention this factoid because it is some rather cut and dry evidence of the fact that people who manufacture cleaning products, often don’t give a spit about your health and well being. They simply want to sell cleaning products.
People have been, and continue to be brainwashed into believing they cannot live without certain products, as if their very health and well being depends on it. Rubbish! The truth is plain old soap and water is still the best and most effective for cleaning you and everything you touch.
Hand sanitizers are a mixed bag. The jury is still out. If you are in a car or away from soapy water, than yes, an alcohol based sanitizer is probably better than nothing. Chuckling here, but currently homemade vodka sanitizer is all the rage. That’s all well and good but vodka is often only about 40 proof! If you really want to make the good stuff, you should probably go get some moonshine which is twice as strong, closer to 100 proof. Or you could just use rubbing alcohol, which is much cheaper. Just don’t EVER drink it and be careful, it’s highly flammable.
I like to use alcohol wipes or disinfectant wipes on my keyboards, remotes, and phone only because soapy water tends to kill them. Of course, if your phone no longer works, you’re less likely to handle it, so it will have less germs on it.
You should wash your laundry with soap and clean your dishes with soap and wash your hands with soap simply because it is good hygiene, it helps to prevent the spread of germs, and it makes your environment nicer. You should do this ALWAYS, just as a matter of routine, like breathing. No global pandemic required.
The reason why we always focus so hard on good hand washing during flu and cold season or panic inducing global epidemics, is because germs usually do not have legs or wings, so they cannot move themselves around. So we must pick them up, carry them where they want to go, and then proceed to rub them into our own eyes, nose, or mouth. If they had a public transportation system of their own, we’d all be dead by now.
This current virus is allegedly carried by droplets which means germs must be sneezed or coughed or shot across the room in order for you to “catch” them. Keep in mind they can probably be gently breathed on you, too. They can land on surfaces in the process and so you can, in theory anyway, pick them up off a sneeze splattered phone and then rub them into your own nose. This is why we are trying to social distance about six feet away, to keep ourselves out of the spit zone.
One final note, baby wipes do almost nothing to kill germs. They are generally just for cleaning baby’s bottoms. Nobody sterilizes their baby’s bum! They often have mineral oil and few preservatives in them. They are not disinfectant wipes or hand sanitizers. They are not a “magic wipe.” Good for getting sticky stuff off of things, but they are a really poor substitute for washing your hands with soap and water.
I have seen some stuff, some stuff that happens when people get the heeby jeebies and panic clean or panic sanitize. Don’t do that, it’s not necessary. It can even be really dangerous.
This concludes the expert opinion of a genuine “infectious disease specialist.” You’re welcome.
Agent X said:
Thanx!
Not having the title myself, BUT having worked with and being married to one, I concur.
Hype… is dangerous too. Not just the bugs. It’s easy to want more power. To want more powerful looking/sounding power. But we already have quite a lot, even if it seems to simple.
Add some vigilance, and we are well equipped for quite a lot of germ battles.
God bless…
X
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insanitybytes22 said:
Yeah, this bug doesn’t scare me half as much as the potential political response to it does. I kind of live at ground zero for both political craziness and the virus. Also, we’ve been dealing with a meth and heroin epidemic that has killed thousands and there’s been little or no concern. It’s startling how we can mobilize for something like this and yet just completely ignore all the people sleeping in the streets and dying from addiction, for years.
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Agent X said:
Our chain is only as strong as its weakest link (barring God’s miraculous grace).
My wife works at the local hot zone. Moving through the hospital is like going thru checkpoints at a prison. They got nurses set out like checkpoint Charlie between departments checking temps if you wanna pass through. She is impressed with the NICU and their efforts, with the PICUand theirs. The ER… well… Hmmm… She washes a lot.
We had an exposure in day surgery a few days back. Didn’t know it for several days, but now it is traced back. A nurse we know who works there was exposed. No symptoms, YET. But exposed.
They are keeping her on the job. No quarantine. Plus she got chewed out for using a mask! Wow! This is the HOT ZONE. I understand the desire to conserve them, but when you have an exposure, protecting the other caregivers seems vital to me. Also, that is the stated policy, but it is not the actual practice.
Then there are my kids. My little ones are too small to hold to account. They are gonna put everything in their mouths. EVERYTHING. We cant stop that. All we can do is shepherd them. Isolate them in this environment and then keep our germs out. Hard to do with confidence, but handwashing is the most central thing.
So why am I having to argue about this with my own kids?
Well, young, dumb, and full of… stuff.
With Mom’s help, the kids are compiiant now. washing when we first walk in… washing frequently. But Mom herself is going into the hot zone every day.
Then I got one kid, fresh out of the USMC who thinks this is blowing over. Who thinks you can cure it with Tamiflu. This one is no different than the beachbum they interviewed in Florida the other day. At least he doesn’t visit us frequently, but does he bother to wash his hands??? I can’t police it. All I can do is announce it. I got to love this kid even if he kills us all.
Then there are the foster kids getting visits with their parents down at the CPS office. All manner of traffic, and parents desperate to see and be with their babies. Who can blame them? Except if they are guilty of child abuse, but that has not been through a court yet, so innocent until proven… anyway.. its complicated… and ripe for exposure. And then the foster kids come back and expose the rest of us.
So even if I put my faith in soap and water and do it correctly EVERYTIME, which lets face it… like the homeland security has to get it right everytime and the terrorists only have to get it right once… Here we go.
A lot here to be concerned with.
And so I try to attend to the handwashing while devoting myself to prayer. It may be that I am called to come serve down at the leper colony before this is done. I hope I have the faith to answer my calling. Rare are those who do. More rare still, those who “survive it”.
Anyway… then there is the economy… as you say. the politics… If the germs don’t get us, there are other battles yet to fight.
I sure miss my mom… RIP.
Maybe not much longer…
God bless…
X
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insanitybytes22 said:
God bless you, agent x! Actually your words are comforting. It’s good to know there are others observing the crazy going on around us, who understand that ultimately we just have to trust in the Lord and do our best to serve Him well.
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MyQuirkyFriend said:
Totally agree Agent X. That seems to be the exact mixed bag of thoughts I’ve been feeling with as well.
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PARTNERING WITH EAGLES said:
Finally some common sense. Very long ago I’d taken the Pathogen class. The media hype has caused mass hyeteria. Gov’t here in my state has required suspension of “unnecessary gatherings, so my church as suspended services fof the next two weeks. I was less diplomatic in these posts:
https://partneringwitheagles.wordpress.com/2020/03/08/end-times-new-plagues/
https://partneringwitheagles.wordpress.com/2020/03/15/media-hype-andpubic-opinion/
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dumbestblogger said:
Thanks for this. If I didn’t know better I would think you know what you’re talking about.
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insanitybytes22 said:
LOL! It’s all 100% true. I’m laughing because often when I tell people the absolute truth they don’t believe me.
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dumbestblogger said:
Cassandra of Troy had a similar predicament, so it’s nothing new.
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Joseph E Bird said:
Great post, IB. Just read it out loud to wifey.
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atimetoshare.me said:
Appreciate your knowledge and advice. Good to know you’re on top of this.
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terif2009 said:
Thank you for offering a few words of wisdom. Perhaps this will inspire and lead to an increase in sanity.
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ColorStorm said:
Love it.
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Re-Farmer said:
” “you’re not an infectious disease specialist!”
Actually I am! ”
Ahahahahahaha!! I love it!
I actually keep a container of wet wipes (not the baby bottom kind, but the same idea made for adult hands) in our van. I was happy to find a type that wasn’t a disinfectant cleaner. I just wanted to clean my hands when I didn’t have access to a public washroom, not disinfect a counter. I’ve noticed that even these have disappeared from the shelves, too. Along with the aloe gel and isopropyl alcohol.
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Once Written said:
Most people on social media have no clue and don’t actually look at data. Actually, the news organizations don’t either. They spread panic which trickles its way up to governmental agencies.
Once this ‘panic’ and ‘hysteria’ over the COVID-19 outbreak is over, which I predict will be soon (Most viral pandemics like SARS showed a similar fate) , most studies will show that we over-reacted. Sheltering in place and shutting down the country is practically a joke.
It won’t stop the spread of covid-19 or any other virus for that matter. Covid-19 has already been shown to follow the bell-curve of most viruses and will fall the way of the SARS virus. The financial impact, the hording and hysteria will do more harm to this country than any known virus. Judges, Doctors, and other well-off Americans will get through this without any financial bump in the road. But what about Joe, the average American?
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insanitybytes22 said:
I actually believe your “average Joe American,” which to me means “barely making it working class,” has good survival skills and instincts. During the Great Depression it was actually the judges and bankers jumping out the windows. Their lifestyle and way of life suddenly changed and it was too much for them to deal with. I think the resilience and strength of this country has always rested on your average Joe. He is actually our recipe for success, our secret weapon, so to speak.
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Rebecca LuElla Miller said:
I don’t think “sheltering in place” is a joke. People are not getting it. IB said it in her post—6 feet of distance. When you’re in a social gathering, no one keeps 6 feet apart. Not unless it’s jury duty or some place with a bunch of strangers. But if we’re gathering with people we know, the first thing we do, generally, is touch. Whether with a hug or a handshake. And we sneeze and cough and we “push through” a little head cold, which might actually be the virus that infects our grandmother or even the spouse of a co-worker, who caught it from the exposed employee. I’m not making this up. Watch this short video put out by a group of Italians: https://youtu.be/6-rnwbrXm3o
The truth is, we do need to be smart and wash our hands, avoid congregating in groups. And we do need to stop the insane hoarding. The panic buying of pretty much everything is the problem causing empty shelves. There are supplies of all these things, but because people are hoarding, the trucks moving the material from warehouses to stores don’t have time to get all that is suddenly in demand to the outlets. And the stock persons don’t have time to replenish all the shelves that hoarders have emptied. People need to calm down with this unnecessary buying of everything in sight, just because other people are buying. That bandwagon panic is not helpful. At. All.
But we should be informed and we should be prudent. Here’s one of the best info videos I’ve seen about the virus (and it’s fairly recent, so that’s helpful). https://youtu.be/jWMUBouaqb0
Becky
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newenglandsun said:
They’re still going to raid our hand sanitizers at Walmart like crazy!
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insanitybytes22 said:
LOL! That’s nothing, I read about a woman who actually had a baby at Walmart in the toilet paper aisle the other day. It made me laugh, but it was kind of a sweet reminder that life goes on. Babies don’t wait for a convenient time to be born. 🙂
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Pastor Randy said:
Your credentials are by far, the very best ones!
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Mel Wild said:
Thanks, IB. But all I’m concerned about is having enough toilet paper for the next 20 years. 😛
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insanitybytes22 said:
Toilet paper does say something about the power of advertising and mass media. Prior to 1867 or something, we didn’t even have toilet paper. So we had to be seduced, brainwashed, convinced we couldn’t live without this product we had never even seen. There’s a similar story behind toothpaste. So fast forward a century or more and the media and advertisers once again brainwashed us in to believing TP is a mandatory product, vital to our survival and soon to be scarce. People smarter than me have traced the great TP scare of 2020 to just a couple of articles and advertisement that went viral. Once you plant an idea in people’s heads, fear does the rest.
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iamcurmudgeon said:
Now that the adults among us are heeding the warnings about habits of sanitation that we should adopt temporarily, it makes me realize how careless we normally are about personal sanitation. One study in Britain revealed that touchscreens in a certain worldwide chain of fast food restaurants had hundreds of samples of human feces. I wondered, was that before or after they picked up their burgers or condiment packs.
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Ann H Aschauer said:
Thanks for the good information from an expert! My question of the day this morning was how long does the Corona virus last on produce, and what’s a good way to wash it? OK, that two questions … My husband – a chemical engineer – suggested one day, and rinse it off with water and a little hydrogen peroxide. (No soap on my salad, thanks.) What do you think of this method?
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insanitybytes22 said:
Hmmm, that’s a good question. We’ve had that problem for a while now due to pesticides and ecoli outbreaks. My instinct would be to just use plain water to wash our fruits and veggies. This is a respiratory illness, so you’re probably not likely to catch it from eating it. Your stomach acid would kill it off, unlike other bugs like ecoli. Also most tap water already has chlorine in it, so I would just go with water.😊
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HAT said:
Thanks!
One more tidbit [from the infection control lady at Norton Hospital, Louisville]: when you wash your hands, take care to wash your thumbs.
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insanitybytes22 said:
Ha! Thanks, Hat. Very true. 🙂
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Anna Waldherr said:
Thank you for sharing your expertise. 🙂
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authorstephanieparkermckean said:
Great advice mixed with great humor and common sense. Thank you!
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