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Pam has decided to start a blog called “Red Pill Fallacies-A Christian Woman’s Response.” She welcomes comments and discussion. She too is a Christian woman who has done a great deal of research into the Red Pill, the manosphere, Tomassi, Dalrock, Day, Heartiste, et all. Check it out, her first post is called, “The wisdom of God’s spirit.”
I struggle sometimes to explain my own interest in the red pill, the compelling need I have to speak up about it, the sadness I feel when people get caught up in it.
What started my excursion into the gamers and pick up artists was actually caring for this guy at the end of his days who had spent his whole life pouring women into the abyss of his soul, never able to have the intimacy he so clearly craved. The guy was so full of regret, grief, bitterness, that he broke my heart. I’d leave him and have to go sit in my car and cry before I could even drive home.
He was all alone, estranged from his kids who resented him, dealing with a slew of ex-wives who had all rejected him, and he had such a torment for relationship, connection, but everything he did drove people away. Once his good looks, wealth, and even his health began to fail him, he had nothing left to “game” anyone with. He longed for intimacy and yet he had exploited everyone, shut everyone out, prided himself on his ability to remain aloof and avoid any vulnerability, always the top dog. He was trapped in this hell of his own making and full of regret.
The guy really needed a relationship with his heavenly Father but he hated God almost as much as he hated himself. There was no happy ending, he simply died, bitter, angry, and alone, but he left me with a lot of questions, riddles I needed to solve, questions about faith, about men and their struggles with intimacy, about the lure and seduction of cultian ideologies like the red pill, about things that are all wrong with our culture.
God has been faithful in helping me to answer those questions, in guiding and leading me through riddles and deceptions that have confused me. God is good that way, He always puts my mind at ease, answers my questions, and fills me with His peace.
One thing that has been really hard for me in my life is survivor’s guilt, why me? God has been very good to me and yet I have watched so many others I care about completely destroy themselves with this keen awareness of, “but for the grace of God there go I.”
I empathized with my dying pick up artist, I saw aspects of myself reflected in him, I recognized his choices as some of the choices I had faced, and at the end of the day I realized that the only difference between him and I was my saving faith in Jesus Christ.
What makes the red pill so dangerous in my mind, besides the obvious perversions of scripture, is that we all have a hunger for intimacy, a God sized hole in our spirits that calls us to relationship, and the red pills mislead people into severing that connection, into squashing and suppressing that hunger with falsehoods and deceptions. It is like watching people starve to death eating sawdust, having no awareness that the nutrients they need are missing.
Men, even the most manly ones, even the alleged alpha ones, have a desperate need for intimacy and spiritual connection with their heavenly Father, and with the women in their lives, too. The red pill robs them of that and lures them into a false belief system, one that is often cloaked in pseudo-Christianity and promises you the kingdoms of the world.
ColorStorm said:
I don’t know how you gals do it, to wade through the suffering needed to carry the mail, to lands far and wide found in the hearts of men, hearts as islands which appear so so distant from the shores of truth….
I guess somebody’s gotta do the dirty work, so fare ye well ladies.
On a more pleasant note msb, I’m smiling somewhat. I have a post on ice, just finished, to be released in a few days, about some ‘awful stuff,’ which you may find amusing, as you have in your post here mentioned some exact wording.
God is good like that I suppose. 😉
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insanitybytes22 said:
Pleased to hear about that post on ice. I am always delighted by God’s perfect timing, His synchronicity. God is good like that, indeed. 🙂
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lynnabbottstudios said:
I’d never heard of this until you posted about it… guess I sometimes bury my head in my work? But whatever “the red pill” is… it sounds like a very self-serving philosophy. Glad someone is taking it on from a Biblical perspective.
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Julie (aka Cookie) said:
Ok, I’ve been reading you for how long now and I still don’t get this pill business—what is it???
This is perhaps how out of touch I am since I shun all social media but for a touch here in bogland….
but I have gathered, these pills are something I would not like….
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Wally Fry said:
Absolutely, and that is all I have to say about this.
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Doug (FPS/DougLite.com) said:
As I inevitably age it becomes more of a challenge to maintain current social nuances, given my more active contributions in pursuing career, jobs of relevancy, raising children, and being in the cutting age of advancing Baby Boomerism.. has now waned into being more the old elder of the tribe (“wise” being subjective). Back in the day of Carson, Leno, and Letterman I would catch the monologue to determine who the guests were.. then go to bed when I wasn’t interested. I currently record all the late night talk guys (it’s always guys… all my life.. girls are daytime; women don’t stay up late?) for purposes of gafawing at the anti-Trump humor in the monologues and of course I learn who the guest celebrities are for the evening. I once went an entire week of these guys, asking my GF.. “Who the hell is that?” On the average I know maybe a third of the guests.
Of late I’ve been doubting myself yet again when Citizen Tom has had to remind me who the hell I am replying to in here.. although I think I’ve traced that to this on-going crazy post/reply routine on all these blog sites being so different; sometimes I have to enter in all the ID info over and over again… I even have to moderate my own replies on my own blog. Seems my use of Jetpack doesn’t work well with the particular WordPress theme I am using. But……….. anyway………. all that is nonsense to provide this next bit of “WTF”?
It’s been increasingly apparent I’ve been reading about the red pill/blue pill analogy. Again, I asked some who traverse my life… “What’s the sudden use of red and blue pill analogy?” “I dunno.” is the usual retort (it’s not like I am surrounded by the intelligentsia of the community anyway on any normal day). So.. I refer to good old Wiki. Ok.. I saw The Matrix.. didn’t care for it much since I am not a way out bizarre syfi-plot-that-has-to-have-contemporary-meaning-if-I-am-smoking-pot kinda guy (I actually liked the computer guy with sunglasses). Essentially the red pill tunes you into reality and the blue pill allows you to live in fantasy.. and the metaphor is now popular. I get that. I’m not about to indulge in…. well….
“…the manosphere, Tomassi, Dalrock, Day, Heartiste, et all”
I’m sure that’s all impressive work, whatever it is, and I acknowledge you knowing names I do not. Pop me the Cliff Notes version if you feel charitable. At least that will get me up to 1999 when the movie came out.
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pamelaparizo said:
IB, thanks, and thanks for the personal story. My own experience also started personally. My son started reading the PUA stuff. Then, also, in my studies on submission, I ran into a couple of winners, Biblical Gender Roles, AKA Larry Solomon (bad, bad, bad) and Artisanal Toad (equally vile) which lead me to the other group. In my study to find the way God views gender, I realized how these guys felt about women, and it really did seem like they were devising their own jails for women, a jail they called marriage. The fact that these guys felt love and affection was somehow not masculine also piqued my interest since I care very much about the value of women in marriage. To deliberately shut that part of yourself out of the intimate equation, indeed, to distance oneself from the very person you’re supposed to cleave to, become one with, creates a cold-hearted individual indeed. Personally, I wonder how much of their blogs are their own delusions about how they think it should be….I can’t for the life of me imagine being in a relationship with these guys. As I point out initially, the woman is man’s glory; to denigrate the woman is to denigrate one’s own character and glory if you are a man. Paul points out that investing in the woman is presenting oneself with the greatest gift a man can give himself….a wife who glorifies him.
Admittedly, there are times I have to go hide in the loving arms of Jesus when I read their vitriolic stuff. But my hope is that somehow I can pull someone out of their fire. My interest, also, is primarily with Christians who may find themselves attracted to it but if I can also touch a non-believer, that would be great.
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theinfiniterally said:
Good article, and I don’t even know what a red pill is! I guess I’ll go find out.
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theinfiniterally said:
Yuck!
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insanitybytes22 said:
LOL! Yuck indeed.
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pamelaparizo said:
Thanks by the way for this post. When I pop “red pill” into the search, this one comes up on top!
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pamelaparizo said:
Was just reading a new blog I subscribe to, Dr. Perry, a psychologist. His article on narcissistic triangulation approximates the red pill game of dread where the guy essentially makes his lover/wife jealous and uncertain in order to obtain her increased desire for him. It sounds just like these egoistic “alpha males” and their selfish, egocentric approach to relationships.
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insanitybytes22 said:
Yes, Pam, definitely some narcissism going on. They also try to misuse psychology to break down their targets, not unlike cults do, their targets actually being the men they try to lure into the red pill family.
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pamelaparizo said:
I already have an article written that I will release later on the “dread” game and how even the Alt-Christian version does not meet the soundness of biblical principles. I want to set the foundation first though.
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pamelaparizo said:
No doubt. Kinda like drinking the koolaid, right?
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thoughtvalveblog said:
“Men, even the most manly ones, even the alleged alpha ones, have a desperate need for intimacy and spiritual connection with their heavenly Father, and with the women in their lives, too. The red pill robs them of that and lures them into a false belief system, ”
-We have a desperate need for intimacy…with women.
This is background information. A premise, if you will.
Your argument is: “The Red pill robs them of that and lures them into a false belief system.”
This is known as a “conclusion.” Specifically, a “value judgement.”
A proper argument ties premises to conclusions with sufficient evidence.
Yours, unfortunately, has as much evidence from the premise to the conclusion as there are people living on the moon.
You are right that men need relationships. “Desperately” is a projection of your own female solipsism. Most men find relationships nice, many would even say that they “need” them.
But, “desperate” need is just your female emotions projecting your own desperate need for intimate relations with men onto men. I “desperately” need food. I do not “desperately” need any women. The Heavenly Fater, yes. I’m a believer.
And furthermore, the Red Pill teaches men to do the things necessary for those intimate relations you think we need to “Desperately” have. For women do not want a loser, a creep, a weirdo, a beta-male. At a minimum, they want a decent looking man, focused on developing himself.
Ask yourself the prototypical man you want. And if that image is of a decent looking man with at least decent money and self-confidence, you aren’t actually against Red Pill.
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