I speak of Jeff Crippen, a Cry for Justice, my ongoing frustration with the heart and attitude that requires us to “make enemies,” to label people evil, mostly men, to blame the church, to blame scripture,to perceive some kinds of sin as beyond all redemption.
So, “Standing Against Abuse Requires Making Enemies,”, while true in a literal sense, standing up for what is right is always going to rattle some cages, the call to perceive all others as enemies is just all wrong.
I don’t like a heart that insists we’re at war with people themselves, that seeks to label others as the enemies of our own personal crusade.
“If they are teaching unhelpful stuff about domestic abuse, we must compromise, we must tolerate it, we must help them along and not be harsh on their ‘minor’ mistakes. But the thing is, when we try to teach such folks, they don’t want to learn, they bristle, and sometimes they even start spreading false reports about us. Here at ACFJ we reject all of this ‘compromise’ thinking….”
Another way of saying that is, “my way or the highway.” So someone like me who simply believes scripture has some real treasures for healing, becomes a “compromiser,” the “enemy,” an “abuse enabler.” Talk about spreading false reports. I mean, come on.
There’s another reason why shutting everyone out and designating nearly everyone “the enemy,” is a real problem. Domestic violence, abuse, the health and well-being of our families, requires teamwork, a community wide response, support from our churches and the people within them. In fact, that alone has a whole lot to do with many of the problems we’re seeing in our world, we’ve destroyed that sense of community that use to support families.
So someone like me who spent years working with victims, is suddenly dismissed, transformed into a compromiser, an abuse enabler, labeled “the enemy.” Do people honestly believe I condone abuse? Cover it up? Compromise on prioritizing safety? These things are all false and untrue.
I simply insist on saying, scripture does not condone abuse, in fact the precise opposite. Christian marriage is not a vehicle for women’s oppression, in fact the precise opposite. And in order for victims to heal properly they have to get into The Word, and horror among horrors, begin the Christian process of forgiveness.
Forgiveness is not about condoning abusive behavior, it is about setting captives free.
Creating an attitude, a culture that suggests you’re with us or against us, the church is your enemy, your circle of support is very small, is actually more like taking hostages then it is about setting captives free. It’s very isolating, it insists on demanding people perceive others as evil, and it does nothing to support healing. In fact, it feels very exploitive. Whose needs are actually being met there? Surely not those who need to find healing from abuse.
In fact, I’ve actually found a much more enlightened attitude of service, a more generous heart, a stronger desire to see people truly heal in some of those pastors you put on your “naughty list.” I actually go forth and speak with some of them, get a feel for were they are coming from, check out their attitudes towards women, towards marriage. Ironically, I’ve yet to have one label me the enemy or shut me out. In fact, some of them have led to some very fruitful conversations, eye-opening on both sides. I have a hope that these efforts and discussions will help us all to respond to victim issues with greater wisdom and sensitivity.
See, there's this thing called biology... 
“So someone like me who spent years working with victims, is suddenly dismissed, transformed into a compromiser, an abuse enabler, labeled “the enemy.” Do people honestly believe I condone abuse? Cover it up? Compromise on prioritizing safety?”
There are many books addressing whether this is true or not. They are all written by Egalitarian Christians so they must be telling the truth. The simple answer is “yes, you are indeed trying to cover it up.”
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I know, right? What the heck?
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Listen, as starkly as you and I disagree, the idea that you are an abuse enabler never so much as danced casually across my consciousness.
For instance. Your instincts and intuitions are trained to tell you tell you:
“… scripture has some real treasures for healing,
Whereas biblical/reformed instincts and intuitions would tell you, not that God’s word has SOME treasures for HEALING, but:
…The whole counsel of God, concerning all things necessary for his own glory, man’s salvation, faith, and life, is either expressly set down in Scripture, or by good and necessary consequence may be deduced from Scripture: unto which nothing at any time is to be added, whether by new revelations of the Spirit, or traditions of men… “
…as set forth by the 120 utterly sold out godly scholars at Westminster in the 1640’s. See? Wherever there are issues involving doctrine or morality (like abuse), the scriptures have the answers and they’re the same for everybody. Where there aren’t issues of doctrine or intrinsic morality involved, meat and drink for instance, God leaves it up to our conscience.
You are very wrongheaded in this. The bible is not a REALLY good healing resource in the midst of many others in the arena of abuse. It’s the ONLY way from death in sin to life in Christ, and learning to forgive from the new heart that that life brings is THE only kind of “healing” that impresses God.
However, the idea that you are enabling abuse or any such related allegation is manifestly outrageous and preposterous and I will be first in line to defend you.
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“You are very wrongheaded in this…Whereas biblical/reformed instincts and intuitions would tell you.”
Tiribulus, step one, stop accusing IB of being wrongheaded about absolutely everything. Step two, stop assuming IB is not already operating under “biblical/reformed instincts and intuitions.”
Good grief, with brothers like you,who needs enemies?
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So Memi, were you actually able to communicate with Jeff Crippen ?
I got some great news today in my fight with Lundy Bancroft’s evil! If it goes the way I hope it does, maybe Jeff Crippen, Lord willing, will take some much needed correction!
More later!⛈💨🕊👍😏
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I have made the effort to communicate a couple of times,but no luck at all. I’ll keep you in my prayers A-dad, as I have been.
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Memi! Thanks so much for your prayers! My great news is that I got confirmation today that the U.S. DOJ assigned my case a case number! If all goes well, Lord willing, my local east coast version of a “Barbara Roberts type Lundy Bancroft idol worshiper” will soon be facing Federal perjury charges re: some false “abuse” accusations she made against me. I had written the woman’s supporting church, warning them that Lundy Bancroft was a cult founder. The woman’s response was to sue me for “harassment”. She lost her law suit. I am still trying to get my name off “abuse” records, caused by her false law suit. That is what the legal effort is about.
In any case, call it my dark sense of humor, but if the Jeff Crippen of “A Cry for Justice” is the same Jeff Crippen below, who failed his Squamish Police Department yearly fitness test, that Jeff Crippen might have “donut idolatry issues” in addition to “Lundy Bancroft” idolatry issues! ; – )
If the Below Jeff Crippen is one and the same, it might offer some insights into his behavior. If he is operating under any prejudice, be it prejudice about “abuse” or “race” for instance. Those prejudices die very hard among people who have had their prejudices supported in any official capacity.
In the above light, pray for Jeff and Barb too!
Also pray for my false accuser, that if she is endicted, she will do the right ting and plead guilty.
“Suquamish police officers fired after department revamps fitness policy
May 05, 2011
By Josh Farley of the Kitsap Sun
Three Suquamish police officers lost their jobs in April following the police department’s implementation of a high-stakes fitness program.
The police department’s 15 officers are now expected to pass a fitness test each year composed of running, push-ups and sit-ups. It’s identical to the exam all new officers in the state are required to complete as part of the state’s law enforcement academy.
But in April the department terminated employees for the first time for failing to pass the test.
The program is the first of its kind here. None of Kitsap County’s other police departments have a mandatory annual fitness test that officers must pass to stay employed.
The Port Orchard Police Department has a fitness test policy on the books. But the testing has been halted because of the cost and questions surrounding its efficacy, said police Cmdr. Geoff Marti. Failure of the test wouldn’t lead to termination.
The Suquamish department did not release the names of the three terminated officers. The Kitsap Sun has learned they are Sgt. Lori Penner, Officer Julie Goode and Sgt. Jeff Crippen.
“None of us had a problem with a fitness program,” said Penner, who worked as an officer with the department for nine years. “It’s the way it’s been handled.”
“It’s unfortunate that it came down to that, after seven years,” Goode wrote in an email. “It just seems incredible that I would be fired cause I couldn’t do a run in a specific amount of time.”
Crippen did not respond to an email……..”
complete article.
http://archive.kitsapsun.com/news/local/suquamish-police-officers-fired-after-department-revamps-fitness-policy-ep-418580163-357247991.html
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Good grief A-Dad. Wadda mess. 😦
Prayer all around. Including for Barbara Roberts and Jeff Crippen. How humiliating if that is him. 😦
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Gabrielle says: “Tiribulus, step one, stop accusing IB of being wrongheaded about absolutely everything.”
Stop saying wrongheaded things and I’ll stop too 🙂 Besides, you missed the part where I took your side on the allegation of being an abuse enabler. I sure did. Take a look. .
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“Step two, stop assuming IB is not already operating under “biblical/reformed instincts and intuitions.”
I’m not assuming. I’m taking you at your word. Unless you’re operating quite a bit differently than what you say? As long as you continue operating with the primary goal and measure of success of fixing people rather than glorifying God, you will not be operating under “biblical/reformed instincts and intuitions.” You plainly declared to me that the glory of God is not your primary concern because it is not God’s primary concern. Yes you did.
Don’t make me go get a screenshot now. You know I’ll do it.
Am I become your enemy because I tell you the truth? The scriptures and the whole body of reformation divinity, proclaim for at least 300 years the glory and honor of the Lord our God as THE first reason for everything.
I would urge you for your own good, not to attempt to demonstrate the untruth of that statement. It will not go well. Not because I’m an invincible debater and you’re a bonehead. I don’t think either of those things. But because the case is airtight. A third grader could be taught to effectively argue it in an afternoon.
I do really think your best days are ahead of you. At least I really want to believe that. That is a 100% sincere statement and not made to upset you.
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“I’m not assuming.”
You totally ARE. Would you care to provide one example of “biblical/reformed instincts and intuitions,” I have contradicted or denied?
“As long as you continue operating with the primary goal and measure of success of fixing people rather than glorifying God, you will not be operating under “biblical/reformed instincts and intuitions.”
First of all, I can’t “fix” anybody. Only God can do that. Second, you need to stop assuming that God is not glorified by healing people. It’s not rocket science, we’re commanded to love our neighbor. THAT glorifies God.
“Am I become your enemy because I tell you the truth?”
Do I treat you like an enemy? I think not. Also, I’ll remind you, the Truth is actually a person.
“A third grader could be taught to effectively argue it in an afternoon.”
Reformed theology you mean? Well than, perhaps somebody should fetch me a third grader? They couldn’t possibly be any worse at it than you than you are. 🙂
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You said: “The God who subjected Himself to the brutal indignity of the cross absolutely loves His own children more than His HONOR AND GLORY
That is in direct irreconcilable conflict with both the biblical witness AND the whole body of reformed divinity for at least 300 years.
Second, you need to stop assuming that God is not glorified by healing people. It’s not rocket science, we’re commanded to love our neighbor. THAT glorifies God.”
Nobody is healed in a God glorifying biblical and reformed manner by the nonexistent false god of “The Shack.” Once again. The devil will be more than happy to fix somebody up if it gives them a false sense of security thinking that God did it. It works wonders for him. They are far more useful clean, sober and deceived than they are junkies and deceived. Whole new opportunities for the ol serpent to deceive others. Who listens to drunks, junkies and hookers? Former drunks, junkies and hookers? Now they’ll get an audience to lap up their false doctrine.
Of course when these good works are actually done in the name of the one true and living God and His one true and risen Christ, by the actual power of the one true and living Holy Spirit, God IS greatly glorified.
How do we know the difference?
T. H. E. O. L. O. G. Y.
Which simply means words and thoughts about God. All we should care about as Christians is what saith the Lord, and we know what the Lord saith from the SCRIPTURES. That’s one of the reasons He gave em to us ya know. For situations like this. So we’d be able to know a flaming godless heretic like William Paul Young when he’s staring us in the face,.
We have no excuse at this late date for sure. Tens of thousands of volumes of rock solid piety and scholarship. ALLLLLLLLL of which declares William Paul Young a flaming godless heretic. Not Augustine, not any of the reformers, not any one of the officers at Dort, none of the Westminster Divines, none of the puritans or reformed scholastics, none of the great reformed Baptists (Like Gill, Bunyan and Spurgeon), None of them. NONE would fail to denounce this fruitcake as the new age, neo emergent, postmodern heretic that he is. None.
No student of church history who prefers not to be laughed outta the room will attempt to say otherwise.
That being the undeniable case, (it really is) the burden is on you and these folks you attract here to overthrow that witness. Seeing that this is an impossibility, your choices are these:
1. Just say that they were all wrong and you’re right. You know the scriptures better than all of them
2. Say that even if they were all right, you’re going to believe what you want anyway. (you’d need to drop your claim to being reformed though)
3. Change what you believe to align with the sprawling historic testimony of the great saints who went before you. Reformed saints whom you claim to be one of.
I’m praying for number 3.
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Jesus did subject Himself to the brutal indignity of the cross.He also came down from on high and brought Himself low for our sakes. That is simply the truth. He absolutely loves His children more than honor and glory. He did it for us. He didn’t have to, but He did.
“Nobody is healed in a God glorifying biblical and reformed manner by the nonexistent false god of “The Shack.”
God has used any number of strange and mysterious ways to heal His children, all through the bible. People will testify to that truth too,right here and right now in our modern lives. Are you prepared to inform God that He is not glorifying Himself in an approved reformed and biblical manner? Because if so, let me know. I’m going to want to make some popcorn while I watch that one go down….
“Tens of thousands of volumes of rock solid piety and scholarship…..
No student of church history who prefers not to be laughed outta the room will attempt to say otherwise. .”
Isn’t that exactly what the pharisees brought as charges against my Lord and Savior? Wasn’t He accused of having a demon, even of blasphemy? Didn’t “thousands of volumes of rock solid piety and scholarship” actually send Him to the cross?
I’m sorry Tiribulus, call me crazy, but I DO prefer to be laughed out of the room. That very same religious spirit that persecuted Christ Himself, also lead to the very reformation you claim to value so much. I’m pretty sure it was “rock solid piety and scholarship” that burned people at the stake and buried women alive.
In truth Tiribulus, I’m far more aligned with the “historic testimony of the great saints who went before me” than you are.
How ironic, here we are all these years later and you, in the name of the Reformed Ones, run about calling people flaming godless heretics? Care to be the first to light the fire under our feet too?
I reject all three of your options listed and grieve the fact that not one of them even suggests actually following Jesus Christ.
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Concerning IB’s comment, ““The God who subjected Himself to the brutal indignity of the cross absolutely loves His own children more than His HONOR AND GLORY”, You said “That is in direct irreconcilable conflict with both the biblical witness AND the whole body of reformed divinity for at least 300 years.” I would concur that you may be half right, the part on the whole body of reformed divinity, I admit I haven’t studied reformed theology much lately. BUT the Bible says in Philippians 2:6-8 “Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to. Instead, he gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form, he humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal’s death on a cross.” If in one instant he was in heaven being praised and glorified by the angels and the saints, then gone as a miraculously fertilized egg in Mary’s womb, born in a smelly barn, grew up in obscurity, then suffered more than we can imagine, finally to experience the penalty of our sin on the cross (this means God treated him as the sinner we all are), I would have to agree with IB, and not you, He DID love us more than His honor and glory.
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Not really related per se, but this reminds me.
When all hell was breaking loose, we saw the Lord on a boat…fast asleep, not oblivious to the pressures on every front, literally, enemies galore, doubters on board and real close, and the son of God was sleeping!
How many believers (?) today would chastise Him for NOT CARING that the waves of destruction were abounding? That He was not about the Fathers’s business!!!! Uh, far too many. He no doubt took their abuse also. You don’t care! Yet, there He was, glorifying God by doing nothing, or so some thought.
Perspective is oh so crucial in understanding scripture, Truth, and I must say, I appreciate your consistent perspective in things old and new. Discernment is such a valuable gift also.
Well maybe its related just a little. God bless ya msb, as He has.
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Amen! I too have been thinking of Jesus in the midst of a storm, calmly taking a nap. 🙂
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“I reject all three of your options listed… “
You really don’t realize what postmodernism has done to you. 😦 (that’s how it works)
When the mind has been given to operate without even the basic categories for which it has been designed, and within which even the pagans have by common grace until recently been restrained, coherent conversation is no longer possible.
When simple logic and the necessity of thinking in a straight line (consistency) have been forfeited, VOLUNTARILY, it is heartbreaking to behold. 😦
As far as the major points of the present discussion are concerned IB, there is no intelligible content in THIS comment.
I stared at it for a minute and thought of the obvious responses, but it very much appears that you have been rendered incapable of processing them. I beg you to believe that I am not denigrating your intelligence and this has nothing whatever to do with your being a woman. You’re a smart lady. That’s not the point at all.
Postmodernism is like a computer virus. Or maybe more like a ROOTKIT. It tricks the user (with good sounding stuff) into installing it and giving it super elevated access and privileges and then clones itself as the actual legit root/admin account making it impossible to detect by normal means. What the user can see of it looks like it’s SUPPOSED to be there.
All the while it sits invisibly on the throne of that machine dictating to the operating system what can and cannot be processed and how. No other interaction with the operating system is reliable while the rootkit remains.
Satan has been using the same basic tactics on the weak pampered American church world for a long time because they keep working. Debase and corrupt the culture, and whatever latest hip n groovy trends they’ll buy, the world loving church will be sure soon to follow.
And here we are. What makes postmodernism so successful is that it is a directly epistemological attack that renders thought itself unreliable and thereby compromises every area of life. I have had people decrying and denouncing postmodernism to me (BY NAME!!) while using postmodern thinking to do it. You have to sit in gape jawed awe with a sort of begrudging perverse respect for the devils’ genius sometimes.
Only a sovereign work of supernatural deliverance can free somebody from so well constructed a stronghold. The holy Spirit is the only technician who can remove this rootkit.
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Hmmm, perhaps I shall have to do an entire post on post modernism. It’s somewhat amusing to be heaped into the post modern rubbish heap, because I can’t think of anything farther from the truth. Although I must say, being accused of postmodernism, is a vast improvement over being accused of having a demon and being a heretic.
I like the root kit analogy,the computer virus idea. It goes well with the song, “Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb, the soul cleansing blood of the Lamb?” He’s like this awesome anti-virus program, this vaccine against flawed thinking. “Yeah, though I walk through the valley of the postmodernists, I fear no evil…” 🙂
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Tribulus – Why are you so agitated? What is the origin of your moniker? Have you been victimized by tribulation, or are you the perpetrator? What school of theology have you received your degree from? Or what alternative education has made you an expert in the task of biblical exegesis? Why impeach another’s personal testimony of their relationship with God in Christ?
If you are truly the Christian you claim to be, why not direct your accusations to an appropriate rebel – the spiritual forces of darkness – the real enemy? “Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment” – 1Cor. 1:10.
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MJThompson accuses: “What is the origin of your moniker? Have you been victimized by tribulation, or are you the perpetrator?”
It’s Satan who is the accuser friend. I hope you knock that off. Ad hominem assertions are not an argument either.
TIRIBULUS
” What school of theology have you received your degree from? Or what alternative education has made you an expert in the task of biblical exegesis?”
Please answer my questions which I asked you March 29, 2017 at 5:19 pm and I’ll answer yours.
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“Hmmm, perhaps I shall have to do an entire post on post modernism.”
That would be interesting.
I have not thrown you on any rubbish heap, have never implied you have a demon and have never called YOU a heretic per se. You certainly do embrace them though. I think there are a lot of things you have avoided thinking through because you do not want to go where they lead and keeping postmodern compartments in your mind from getting to close to one another has helped you do that.
My goal has been to help you (and many others) UNdo that. You have been predictably and characteristically quite resistant. Yes, I do actually realize how arrogant this must sound to you. That’s the blanket postmodern accusation leveled at anybody with settled biblical conviction.
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“I have not thrown you on any rubbish heap, have never implied you have a demon and have never called YOU a heretic per se. You certainly do embrace them though.”
LOL! That’s called having a forked tongue or speaking out of both sides of your neck. “Per se” means “in and of itself,” it’s a lovely legalistic word that grants one plausible deniability so they can then go on to say, “You certainly do embrace them though.”
Which do I embrace, the demons or the heresy?
Tiribulus, I notice you always give me cultural references, reformed references, but so rarely Jesus Christ references, so rarely scriptural references. If I am to be accused of heresy, it seems only fair that you would provide some actual scriptural evidence of that. I have no qualms with anything the bible says,no qualms with anything Jesus teaches. I do sometimes take issue with the teachings of man, however.
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Now IB, he was talking about heretics and he just happened to have put your name there, per se of course…..lol
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“That’s called having a forked tongue or speaking out of both sides of your neck.”
It called, I haven’t reached that conclusion Gabrielle. (and I certainly don’t want to) There is nothing forked about it.
There are also 19 scriptures references in my article alone. Your CRITIQUE of which launched this whole present dialog. There also plenty more in my comments as well. Including to our friend as cited above.
The reason I so often cite the men I do is because you claim their heritage. EVERYBODY says they believe the bible. I spent 4 years going at it with JW’s who’s constant refrain was how they believed the bible over everything.
SO. When someone claims to be reformed, or even orthodox, I point them to church history. THERE is the reformed faith AND even just general broad orthodoxy. The burden is on YOU to overthrow that because much of what you say is not that.
I just clarified this yesterday my dear on this very PAGE 🙂
Satan is a deceiver. He and his crew cannot posses Christians, but they sure can lie to them and once they have gotten someone to cast off biblical certainty in favor postmodern confusion, they have made their own job a thousand times easier.
Jesus Told Peter: “Get behind Me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to Me; for you are not setting your mind on God’s interests, but man’s.”
Did Peter have a demon? God forbid a blood bought child of the most high God be violated in that manner. He WAS listening to the wrong spirit though. That’s what we have here. How do I know that? Because I compare what you say with the SCRIPTURES, especially as understood by the very heritage you claim to own.
Not Augustine, not any of the reformers, not any one of the officers at Dort, none of the Westminster Divines, none of the puritans or reformed scholastics, none of the great reformed Baptists (Like Gill, Bunyan and Spurgeon), None of them. NONE would have had any problem with any major thing I’ve said to you this whole time. OR even how I’ve said. If you spent less time on pagan art, culture and stories and more time on them, you’d know that.
So, here we are again. I’m with them. The burden is on you. YOU are the one challenging what has been understood as the faith once for all delivered to the saints, and recovered from under a mountain of demonic delusion in the reformation. YOU wanted ME here when you cited my piece. Remember?
If I didn’t sense down inside (whatever that’s worth) that you and I really do ultimately want the same things, I’d have been outta here and never looked back.
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Thanks be to God, Gabrielle doesn’t seek conformity to the dead poets society (“Not Augustine, not any of the reformers, not any one of the officers at Dort, none of the Westminster Divines, none of the puritans or reformed scholastics, none of the great reformed Baptists (Like Gill, Bunyan and Spurgeon), None of them”).
A personal relationship with the Almighty trumps any and ALL knowledge the combined best efforts of them (and you). Your professed knowledge of church history is lacking a very important component – we are to LEARN from history, or be doomed to merely repeat it. It appears you’ve strained at the gnat while swallowing the camel (Mt. 23:24).
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MJThompson
When can I expect your repentance for falsely ACCUSING ME?
I know a man with your deep and abiding “personal relationship with the Almighty” would never wish to leave the camel of a publicly false accusation against a brother in the Lord hanging between us like that.
Your repentance will be met with my sincere forgiveness and it will be forgotten forever.
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PFFFTTT! I don’t think I have a raspberry big enough for that one. We need to get you a mirror!
Speaking of heresy however, last time I checked, we lack both the power and the authority to grant repentance to anyone,and we shouldn’t say things that imply otherwise.
However, I do cordially invite you to stop perceiving me as a heretic and a post-modernist, and no apology about it required either.
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I didn’t say anything about “granting” repentance Gabrielle. I said it will be “received.” You’re a smart lady. You know the difference
You absolutely ARE greatly influenced by postmodernism. That’s a judgement call based upon observed evidence which I stand fully by.
What this fella did was accuse me of being a “perpetrator” based upon wholly unsubstantiated subjective presumption from my online handle. “Tiribulus.” A thing which I demonstrated with unassailable finality to be utterly false.
If it actually is the case that you really can’t tell the difference, then I’ve been vastly overestimating you. No way. You get this. (and not JUST this) You don’t want to, but you do.
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So I take it you are rejecting my gracious invitation to stop falsely perceiving me as a post modernist and to stop accusing me of heresy?
Suit yourself.
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“So I take it you are rejecting my gracious invitation to stop falsely perceiving me as a post modernist…”
My dear how can you demand that somebody stop perceiving something that is established by evidence before their eyes? So help me that is NOT a jab 😦 It’s an honest assessment and not a joyous one at all 😦
“…and to stop accusing me of heresy?”
Stop supporting heretics.
This conversation I believe, at least for now, is leaving the realm of usefulness and edification. Unless your next post directly addresses me, I will not comment on it.
I’m open if MJThompson wants to have a conversation featuring some actual substance along the lines of what I’ve requested rather than ad hominem assertions.
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