Is there any other “Christian” accompanying context to this? If there isn’t, people who aren’t grounded in the Word are left to digest a purely antibiblical occultic message played in the form of a joke. Magic is no joke (see Deuteronomy 18:10-14) and it’s not humor to use fairy tale especially when detractors of Christianity such as Atheism dub Christianity as founded on nothing but fairy tales.
Which way is it exactly spiritually edifying? There are people out there involved in the occult who are looking for a way out. Coming from a Christian, do you think this joke leads one to find Jesus Christ?
Well, I certainly respect your right to an opinion. The thing is we’re living in a culture where one of the leading causes of death right now is opiate addiction, we have red pill Christians teaching some perverse version of scripture, and suicide especially among men has tripled. We’re living in a dying and broken world and the collateral damage is everywhere.
So what do so many of my Christian brothers and sisters decide to worry about? Insanitybytes is talking fairy tales, making unbiblical occult references, and engaging in coffee idolatry!
You probably don’t know this but in 15 years on the internet the number of Christians willing to come alongside me amounts to about 2 dozen. Contrast that to over a hundred emails scolding me about how I’m allegedly doing faith all wrong.
That is what is wrong with the body of Christ in a nutshell.
I asked an honest question. I was concerned about people who might want to be delivered from the occult, browsing wp and possibly finding your post. It’s a joke for some but coming from someone delivered from that, it is serious and as you can see through the reference, it is a serious matter to God as those things lead people away from him.
Iron sharpens iron right? Do you believe that? We grow that way but to get your last sentence, it is then not okay for any Christian to tell someone what they know to be wrong? If that’s the case, we make the Word of God to be a lie. We are instructed to rebuke and correct.
If any Christian can’t do that to another Christian with genuine intent, then I assure you, this is my last comment.
“We are instructed to rebuke and correct. If any Christian can’t do that to another Christian with genuine intent, then I assure you, this is my last comment.”
I know, I honestly do. Sorry to snap at you, it is just that some days it feels as if rebuke and correct is all Christians know how to do and I sometimes wonder when we ever plan to get to the part about loving one another?
None taken but love does not entail depriving people from the Truth. If you follow Christ, that too is your calling.
Love is when you can be honest with someone regardless of the cost. Our Christianity means nothing when we adopt the world’s standards of right from what is absolutely right in God’s eyes.
I can only guess how you might react to J. R. R. Tolkien’s books. C. S. Lewis also wrote fantasy.
When I was younger, before I became a Christian, I went through a period where I read fantasy, and I played Dungeon’s and Dragons. The problem with such things is that they can become forms escape. Fiction and games in general can be that. The fact that “magic” is involved in the games and the literature does not matter much. It is thrills and the distraction from responsibilities that addicts seek.
Books and role playing games can have a healthy aspect. They provided an opportunity for social interaction and to study human behavior and motivation. Nevertheless, when fantasy books and games involve make-believe gods, some Christians condemn them. Sometimes the make-believe gods are not terribly subtle putdowns of Christianity. So that reaction is somewhat understandable.
Frankly, I think what matters is our attitude. If we play such games and read such books merely as an entertaining way to gain understanding of how people think — what motivates us — I don’t see the harm. If we are just seeking escape, then we risk addiction.
On the other hand, if we take magic seriously and actually try to practice magic, it is like drugs, alcohol, sex, and gambling. It is another kind of idol. It is crutch, a foolish attempt to escape our limitations as a human being.
We become addicted to any sin because we don’t we to deal with the world the only way we can. We don’t want to repent and take our troubles to our Creator. We don’t want to do things the “hard way” and obey His commands.
I know a lot of Christians look up to C.S. Lewis and his works and I’m familiar with Tolkien’s as well, who isn’t? I see the spiritual parallel and the symbols in their works so I was asking IB about her post. Not to sound smug or anything but frankly, I’m a fan of neither.
Point is, some Christians also enjoy graphic romance novels which if you ask me literally encourages fake fantasies. I suppose people don’t find harm in that. Christians have to make choices what they allow into their head as the enemy is intent to take any open door.
God sees the intent of each person but some people also have to be cognizant of other people’s downfall. Not meaning to shame or put down anyone here. I would expectthe same from a Christian to show me if I’m doing something which people may find to be against God’s word.
–I asked an honest question. I was concerned about people who might want to be delivered from the occult,–
If that’s the case, I would think one would be extremely happy to find such liberty in Christianity, where believer’s are not shackled by a set of do’s and don’ts. I would think a person just may enjoy the freedom to be creative, and even laugh, and if you haven’t noticed, the lady here was thought to be seen wearing a long blue dress while standing on a saucer, next to a large cup, in the distance is a keyhole.
So that may be a clue that this blog writer/fine woman has special privileges to say such things. In addition, I like this: ‘unto the pure, all things are pure.’ I can probably say with a hundred per cent accuracy, that there is no malice nor thoughts about the occult here, at all.
A harmless statement that could be enjoyed by believer or non. To take offence as you have, may speak to greater issues that I’d rather not address.
And just a suggestion perhaps. Stick around, read this lad’s blogs, as her track record needs no defense. A bunch of daylight in this part of town.
The enemy convinces believers to take something harmless and it is a slow acting poison, often we see in action when we commit some kind of sin, something that can be rationalized at the same time dulling them from hearing the Holy Spirit’s conviction.
To warrant an attempted ad hominem that I have “greater issues” simply because of my comment only confirms that I am doing something right. Your camaraderie is indeed quite admirable but it only exemplifies that some Christians still need a lot of growing up to do.
The greater issues that I would rather not address are doctrinal. There is no overt act of cloking anything here by the host. Surely you must know that the body of Christ has many members, each with a different field of operation.
Thank God we are not cookie cutter believers; we wouldn’t want to be those Stepford wives type, agree? There is much liberty and grace to be enjoyed in the Christian life.
There is liberty and grace in Christianity indeed but we are to be careful that our liberty does not get misconstrued as a license to promote something that the bible clearly condemns and in this case, it was in the form of witchcraft.
I haven’t actually seen that show you’re referring to.
Even decaf is too strong for me, but then there is that other drug chocolate, mmm, but I crash on it, and smoking is so smelly, I don’t want to chew, and spit,, but one beer and I’m flying with the eagles, A little white powder and I can dance. Is there a difference, are all these substances purely of the devil? For me, there are things I cannot control, that control me, that are common but that I avoid, chocolate while driving a car, weed anytime, puts me in a cloud, alcohol, because one is never enough, and I’ll finish yours too, coffee, makes my eyes shake. You know what affects you, I know what I must avoid, and what I can tolerate, what controls me and what I control. The hardest thing for me to control ,, is my toungue, and next to that is my pen, these can not only destroy myself, but take others out too. The toungue reveals the heart, as I grow and learn I am being purified, sometimes that process is harder than others, like when I think things like ” I’ll never do that” oh boy, whatcha out cause it’s gonna come around and bite me for sure! God in His grace and mercy has shown me that I must look at myself and ask him to show me my faults that I may have compassion, kindness, and love for my fellows, and Thier present struggles. I at one point depended on the “church” , well how did that work? Failed, miserably! So I looked to myself, hopeless! Sometimes I just look to God, and it all seems to flow like a gentle stream,,, but I like rapids! And off I go again, around the mountain so to speak. I pray we all grow in Gods wisdom, for you all got me thinking this morning,,, without coffee!
People may allude to this as coffee but it is played in witchcraft lingo. If Jesus were here, you suppose he’d condone using pagan terminology to make a statement? I would liken this to an eisegesis, reading something into a text when clearly, it is not there.
Wally Fry said:
Reblogged this on Truth in Palmyra and commented:
Now that’s some truth
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insanitybytes22 said:
Ha! Thanks, Wally. 🙂
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Wally Fry said:
Well, anything to do with coffee is A + in my book, IB
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Caeli said:
Is there any other “Christian” accompanying context to this? If there isn’t, people who aren’t grounded in the Word are left to digest a purely antibiblical occultic message played in the form of a joke. Magic is no joke (see Deuteronomy 18:10-14) and it’s not humor to use fairy tale especially when detractors of Christianity such as Atheism dub Christianity as founded on nothing but fairy tales.
Which way is it exactly spiritually edifying? There are people out there involved in the occult who are looking for a way out. Coming from a Christian, do you think this joke leads one to find Jesus Christ?
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insanitybytes22 said:
Well, I certainly respect your right to an opinion. The thing is we’re living in a culture where one of the leading causes of death right now is opiate addiction, we have red pill Christians teaching some perverse version of scripture, and suicide especially among men has tripled. We’re living in a dying and broken world and the collateral damage is everywhere.
So what do so many of my Christian brothers and sisters decide to worry about? Insanitybytes is talking fairy tales, making unbiblical occult references, and engaging in coffee idolatry!
You probably don’t know this but in 15 years on the internet the number of Christians willing to come alongside me amounts to about 2 dozen. Contrast that to over a hundred emails scolding me about how I’m allegedly doing faith all wrong.
That is what is wrong with the body of Christ in a nutshell.
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Caeli said:
I asked an honest question. I was concerned about people who might want to be delivered from the occult, browsing wp and possibly finding your post. It’s a joke for some but coming from someone delivered from that, it is serious and as you can see through the reference, it is a serious matter to God as those things lead people away from him.
Iron sharpens iron right? Do you believe that? We grow that way but to get your last sentence, it is then not okay for any Christian to tell someone what they know to be wrong? If that’s the case, we make the Word of God to be a lie. We are instructed to rebuke and correct.
If any Christian can’t do that to another Christian with genuine intent, then I assure you, this is my last comment.
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insanitybytes22 said:
“We are instructed to rebuke and correct. If any Christian can’t do that to another Christian with genuine intent, then I assure you, this is my last comment.”
I know, I honestly do. Sorry to snap at you, it is just that some days it feels as if rebuke and correct is all Christians know how to do and I sometimes wonder when we ever plan to get to the part about loving one another?
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Caeli said:
None taken but love does not entail depriving people from the Truth. If you follow Christ, that too is your calling.
Love is when you can be honest with someone regardless of the cost. Our Christianity means nothing when we adopt the world’s standards of right from what is absolutely right in God’s eyes.
Anyway, take care.
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Wally Fry said:
Hi Caeli. I suppose I might as well chime in before I take my smack in the head, since I reblogged this at my place.
You probably know I am not much of a fan of magic myself and would even agree magic in the sense you are talking about is Satanic. No problem, right?
But, clearly here there is no support or anything of magic. It’s a joke. Funny.
Look, even from a guy who won’t allow Harry Potter around my house….there’s simply not a a problem here.
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Citizen Tom said:
@Caeli
I can only guess how you might react to J. R. R. Tolkien’s books. C. S. Lewis also wrote fantasy.
When I was younger, before I became a Christian, I went through a period where I read fantasy, and I played Dungeon’s and Dragons. The problem with such things is that they can become forms escape. Fiction and games in general can be that. The fact that “magic” is involved in the games and the literature does not matter much. It is thrills and the distraction from responsibilities that addicts seek.
Books and role playing games can have a healthy aspect. They provided an opportunity for social interaction and to study human behavior and motivation. Nevertheless, when fantasy books and games involve make-believe gods, some Christians condemn them. Sometimes the make-believe gods are not terribly subtle putdowns of Christianity. So that reaction is somewhat understandable.
Frankly, I think what matters is our attitude. If we play such games and read such books merely as an entertaining way to gain understanding of how people think — what motivates us — I don’t see the harm. If we are just seeking escape, then we risk addiction.
On the other hand, if we take magic seriously and actually try to practice magic, it is like drugs, alcohol, sex, and gambling. It is another kind of idol. It is crutch, a foolish attempt to escape our limitations as a human being.
We become addicted to any sin because we don’t we to deal with the world the only way we can. We don’t want to repent and take our troubles to our Creator. We don’t want to do things the “hard way” and obey His commands.
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Caeli said:
I know a lot of Christians look up to C.S. Lewis and his works and I’m familiar with Tolkien’s as well, who isn’t? I see the spiritual parallel and the symbols in their works so I was asking IB about her post. Not to sound smug or anything but frankly, I’m a fan of neither.
Point is, some Christians also enjoy graphic romance novels which if you ask me literally encourages fake fantasies. I suppose people don’t find harm in that. Christians have to make choices what they allow into their head as the enemy is intent to take any open door.
God sees the intent of each person but some people also have to be cognizant of other people’s downfall. Not meaning to shame or put down anyone here. I would expectthe same from a Christian to show me if I’m doing something which people may find to be against God’s word.
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ColorStorm said:
Hi Caeli
If I may cite you:
–I asked an honest question. I was concerned about people who might want to be delivered from the occult,–
If that’s the case, I would think one would be extremely happy to find such liberty in Christianity, where believer’s are not shackled by a set of do’s and don’ts. I would think a person just may enjoy the freedom to be creative, and even laugh, and if you haven’t noticed, the lady here was thought to be seen wearing a long blue dress while standing on a saucer, next to a large cup, in the distance is a keyhole.
So that may be a clue that this blog writer/fine woman has special privileges to say such things. In addition, I like this: ‘unto the pure, all things are pure.’ I can probably say with a hundred per cent accuracy, that there is no malice nor thoughts about the occult here, at all.
A harmless statement that could be enjoyed by believer or non. To take offence as you have, may speak to greater issues that I’d rather not address.
And just a suggestion perhaps. Stick around, read this lad’s blogs, as her track record needs no defense. A bunch of daylight in this part of town.
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Caeli said:
The enemy convinces believers to take something harmless and it is a slow acting poison, often we see in action when we commit some kind of sin, something that can be rationalized at the same time dulling them from hearing the Holy Spirit’s conviction.
To warrant an attempted ad hominem that I have “greater issues” simply because of my comment only confirms that I am doing something right. Your camaraderie is indeed quite admirable but it only exemplifies that some Christians still need a lot of growing up to do.
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ColorStorm said:
Hi Caeli
No ad-hominem. None. Take my word for it.
The greater issues that I would rather not address are doctrinal. There is no overt act of cloking anything here by the host. Surely you must know that the body of Christ has many members, each with a different field of operation.
Thank God we are not cookie cutter believers; we wouldn’t want to be those Stepford wives type, agree? There is much liberty and grace to be enjoyed in the Christian life.
Hope you can enjoy a good laugh every so often.
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Caeli said:
There is liberty and grace in Christianity indeed but we are to be careful that our liberty does not get misconstrued as a license to promote something that the bible clearly condemns and in this case, it was in the form of witchcraft.
I haven’t actually seen that show you’re referring to.
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insanitybytes22 said:
Here is something you may be interested in Caeli, a post I wrote a while back. If nothing else, it is far more provocative than my little coffee meme.
https://insanitybytes2.wordpress.com/2014/10/27/a-coven-a-witches/
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insanitybytes22 said:
Here’s another you may find interesting.
https://insanitybytes2.wordpress.com/2016/12/09/cdc-drugs-kill-more-americans-than-guns/
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Caeli said:
https://modconspiracy.wordpress.com/2016/09/20/flakka-bath-salts-opening-the-door-to-the-demonic/
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insanitybytes22 said:
Thank you for that link, Caeli. I see we share the same concerns.
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Arrow said:
Even decaf is too strong for me, but then there is that other drug chocolate, mmm, but I crash on it, and smoking is so smelly, I don’t want to chew, and spit,, but one beer and I’m flying with the eagles, A little white powder and I can dance. Is there a difference, are all these substances purely of the devil? For me, there are things I cannot control, that control me, that are common but that I avoid, chocolate while driving a car, weed anytime, puts me in a cloud, alcohol, because one is never enough, and I’ll finish yours too, coffee, makes my eyes shake. You know what affects you, I know what I must avoid, and what I can tolerate, what controls me and what I control. The hardest thing for me to control ,, is my toungue, and next to that is my pen, these can not only destroy myself, but take others out too. The toungue reveals the heart, as I grow and learn I am being purified, sometimes that process is harder than others, like when I think things like ” I’ll never do that” oh boy, whatcha out cause it’s gonna come around and bite me for sure! God in His grace and mercy has shown me that I must look at myself and ask him to show me my faults that I may have compassion, kindness, and love for my fellows, and Thier present struggles. I at one point depended on the “church” , well how did that work? Failed, miserably! So I looked to myself, hopeless! Sometimes I just look to God, and it all seems to flow like a gentle stream,,, but I like rapids! And off I go again, around the mountain so to speak. I pray we all grow in Gods wisdom, for you all got me thinking this morning,,, without coffee!
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SLIMJIM said:
LOL!
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Citizen Tom said:
Do magic tea leaves count?
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Caeli said:
People may allude to this as coffee but it is played in witchcraft lingo. If Jesus were here, you suppose he’d condone using pagan terminology to make a statement? I would liken this to an eisegesis, reading something into a text when clearly, it is not there.
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