Humility is the first step towards wisdom. The bible often speaks of fear of God as being the path to wisdom, but what is fear of God but humility? It is a recognition that we do not have all the answers, it is surrendering pride, it is acknowledging that God is far more powerful than us. It is accepting that the error may well be on our end and not on His. Fear of God, as in recognition of Him with awe, tends to bring about humility.
All in good humor here, but I sometimes speak of beginning prayers with, Lord, I’m a moron. I do not know what I think I know. Help me to understand. I call that suspending disbelief. It is surrendering what you think you know with a humble spirit, so that you are open to what you need to know, to the answers you seek. That is the beginning of wisdom.
If you are fairly intelligent, intellectual surrender can be a real bugger. We will believe we already have all the answers, we will rely on our own intelligence to solve problems. There’s a saying, “the smarter we are the more able we are to think ourselves into a great deal of trouble.” Heck, we can think up problems that don’t even exist. Over and over in the bible we are told to not lean into our own understanding. We do not know what we think we know.
Suspending your disbelief or setting aside what you believe to be true, that is the first step to making room for the answers we seek, for wisdom.
People actually have the power to reason wisdom away. I know because I try to do this all the time. We will analyze, question, challenge, and doubt what is right there in front of us. We will even weave elaborate theories around trying to justify our own denial of what is wise.
God always answers me plainly, truthfully, and in half a dozen different ways so I am sure to get it, but still sometimes I resist, as in, “okay, I don’t like that answer, do you have another one that will be more convenient, perhaps one that fits in better with the way I need things to be?”
I don’t mean to be impolite here, but pride tends to render us dumber than a box of rocks. I’m not talking about simply feeling good about yourself or being proud of your accomplishments, but pride, part of that pride/shame dichotomy that makes us think we know what we do not know. The kind of pride that convinces us it’s a good idea to lean into our own understanding.
I don’t think it’s very popular these days to pray for wisdom. I think we much prefer to go to God believing we have accurately diagnosed the problem and are now qualified to prescribe the solution, which we have now chosen to pray rather desperately for.
Sometimes I wonder what it must be like for God to hear our desperate prayers, perhaps thinking, but that’s not what ails you! That’s not the problem, that’s not the solution, and in fact if I give you that, it will make everything worse!
Wisdom is not something we often pray for and I think part of that is because there’s a kind of sadness that comes with it, an awareness that what ails us is so simple, but putting the answer into practice, so challenging. Think of Solomon, “vanity of vanities; all is vanity.” There is a kind of grief that comes from wisdom, from seeing and knowing, a lamentation that you can feel crying out from those pages, how foolish we are, how wasteful, how unwise. Here beloved, here are the keys to the kingdom…. and yet we toss them down with contempt.
The book of Job is one of my favorites and makes no bones about it, “For vain man would be wise, though man be born like a wild ass’s colt.” But later we also have, “Who let the wild donkey go free? Who untied its ropes??
Luke 13:12 tells us Christ said, “Woman, thou art loosed from thine infirmity.” Loosed, set free, no longer bound. Jesus Christ came to set the captives free, but as Harriet Tubman once said, “I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.”
Slaves to our own wisdom, consumed by our own vanities, possessing the keys to the Kingdom and yet rendering ourselves willfully blind. Now that is sad, downright pathetic actually. On the other side of wisdom comes a keen awareness of how steadfast God’s love for us is, how patient, how merciful, how in spite of it all, He sees what is good within us even when we cannot. That good, that human potential, has such worth and value to God, that He gave His only begotten son and laid down His life for us, “not to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”
osarobohenry said:
Awesome
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insanitybytes22 said:
Thank you. 😉
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john zande said:
It is accepting that the error may well be on our end and not on His.
Battered wives say the same thing.
“People wind up blaming themselves for the abusive behavior of their partners. They convince themselves if they approach the person differently, maybe they won’t be abused.” (Craig Malkin, clinical psychologist at Harvard Medical School.)
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insanitybytes22 said:
I have a feeling I am not the one trapped in a cycle of abuse attempting to game myself into believing it is all my fault.
As a matter of fact, Zande, I am far more like the kind of woman who bounces teacups off of people’s heads, as if to say, really, really you think it is all my fault? Well now, why wait for the cycle of violence to progress, let’s just bring it on right now!
You either crawl out from under that bed and fight like a man or you better learn to sleep with one eye open. 😉
Nice try however, Zande, but you should never argue psychology with a mad woman.
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john zande said:
I have a feeling I am not the one trapped in a cycle of abuse attempting to game myself into believing it is all my fault.
Yep, exactly what the battered wife says. “He only beats me when i’m bad.”
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insanitybytes22 said:
As usual Zande, you have missed the entire point. I am not bad, because He took it upon Himself to die for me, taking the consequences upon His own self. That is that epitome of love. It is not about punishment, but rather sacrifice.
It is you Zande, trapped in an abusive relationship with your “malevolent creator,”perceiving, “He only beats me when i’m bad.”
Myself, I am busy rejoicing in mercy, honor, grace, He laid down His life for me. No greater love…
In many ways that relationship reflects the same kind of love husbands often have for their wives, they would put their life on the line to protect us. That is because they are made in the image of their Creator, and that love, that integrity, that honor, you sometimes find in men, is a reflection of the character of God Himself.
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john zande said:
In many ways that relationship reflects the same kind of love husbands often have for their wives, they would put their life on the line to protect us. That is because they are made in the image of their Creator, and that love, that integrity, that honor, you sometimes find in men, is a reflection of the character of God Himself.
And again, you’re writing the battered wife script perfectly!
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insanitybytes22 said:
It is not my script, Zande, it is yours.
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john zande said:
I wrote this batter wife post of yours?
I see. Interesting….
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insanitybytes22 said:
You did, Zande. You have a way of writing your own scripts right in my comments.
This post has nothing to do with battered women and yet you see your own self reflected there.
So, like I would tell any battered woman, it is not your fault, God loves you, and you deserve peace.
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eisernon said:
After reading your cogent and heartfelt blog post, I doubt sincerely that you are anything resembling mad.
Don’t sell yourself short, insanitybytes22; be careful of self-denigration. It can easily descend into a warped kind of pride.
But reading between the lines, I’m happy to see your awareness of the Mercy of God that Jesus spoke of to St. Faustina Kowalska early in the 20th Century, asking that we repeat often–and mean it!–“Jesus, I trust in You.” Such a small effort to honor such a great and loving God!
As I tell my children and grandchildren, “Keep your eyes on Jesus and walk on the water; but don’t look down, because if you do, you’re going to get awfully wet!” It’s all about trusting God with everything, your soul, your life, your eternity.
God bless you, insanitybytes22. And thank you.
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Wally Fry said:
Hey John, since you want to talk about this subject, let me ask you a question. And don’t make me put it in bold face and repeat it over and over. Just answer it. When did you stop beating your wife?(or partner, or friend, or whatever?)
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john zande said:
I never started.
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Wally Fry said:
No John, I asked when you stopped. Do you see my point? Your questions are not questions. They are statements of the insult you wish to hurl at a blogger disguised as a question.
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john zande said:
I don’t recall asking a question, Wally.
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Wally Fry said:
My apologies John. You also do it my deciding what you think a post is about and redefining it to suit your desperate desire to take any measure to link Faith with something negative. In this case, spousal abuse.
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john zande said:
Apart from not asking a question, I also didn’t decide what the post about, Wally. Perhaps you should slow down a little and consider your words before hurling accusations. I commented that Inanity’s words mirrored that of battered wives. It’s actually quite accurate in terms of how you evangelicals perceive your particular Middle Eastern god, Yhwh. I mean, this particular god did create Hell just to punish you for eternity if you don’t love it back exactly the way it wants. That is what you believe, isn’t it, Wally?
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Wally Fry said:
John, I’m not chasing that with you except to say…um..nope, that is not what I believe.
IB, sorry I created the chance for John to toss that in.
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john zande said:
But you do, Wally… You most certainly do. All you evangelicals do.
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insanitybytes22 said:
Well, Zande, I’m pretty sure Wally and I are both what you would call evangelicals. I’m also pretty sure that we both speak endlessly about the love and mercy of Christ. Therefore, your premise is wrong.
But the concept behind this discussion is very revealing. Where I see only love, protection, provision, you see nothing but potential abuse and punishment.
God is not a people, He does not share those abusive qualities that we sometimes find in humans.
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john zande said:
Where I see only love, protection, provision, you see nothing but potential abuse and punishment.
You wrote the words, Inanity, not me. ”It is accepting that the error may well be on our end and not on His.” As I pointed out, that is the battered wife syndrome.
God is not a people, He does not share those abusive qualities that we sometimes find in humans.
Really?
For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God. (Deu 4:24)
Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. (Ex 34:14).
for the LORD your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of the land. (Deut 6:15)
You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD yourGod am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, (Ex 20:5)
But Joshua said to the people, “You are not able to serve the LORD, for he is a holy God. He is a jealous God; he will not forgive your transgressions or your sins. (Josh 24:19)
The LORD is a jealous and avengingGod; the LORD is avenging and wrathful; the LORD takes vengeance on his adversaries and keeps wrath for his enemies. (Nahum 1:2)
So, what was that you were saying? He only beats me when I’m bad.
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insanitybytes22 said:
Somewhat sad but amusing Zande, I’m married to the best man ever and he’s very kind to me. Just the same, in times of trouble and attack, what aspects of his character would I really appreciate? Those of the God of the old testament. That is where protection comes in.
Fear of God need not be an abusive thing, just like a man’s ability to defend his family need not be an abusive thing. All those passages speak to the power of God, to the fear of God, but that does not mean he arbitrarily turns His wrath on His own family.
It is sad because many people who have endured abuse, have a hard time seeing how authority and power is not necessarily an abusive thing.
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john zande said:
Fear of God need not be an abusive thing
Meditate on those words, Inanity. Really, think about what you have just written.
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Wally Fry said:
Hey John,
Sorry to leave earlier. Kid’s program down at the church tonight. Rather interesting. They taught the adults.
Anyway, back to your completed mischaracterization of Evangelical belief. I stated I do not believe as you said. You said I do.
You are pretty smart cookie if you can tell me what I believe when I tell you other wise.
So, allow me to say this very directly, and then I won’t waste any more precious breathing on you. To intentionally and repeatedly mis state another persons position after they have told you that you incorrect about it? Down in my parts we call that a lie. And those who tell lies would be liars.
And lie you do John, Bald faced and openly. Your desperation to malign the God you so want to avoid is amazing. But do you know what is even more amazing? He loves you despite all that. He would accept you as one of His own, if only you would repent and believe.
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john zande said:
So, Wally, you don’t believe in Hell?
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Wally Fry said:
Really? Did I say that? Did I even say? I simply said I don’t believe as you stated.
That is a lie. Which makes you a liar. It’s easy to get, John.
I have no intention of breading down for you what I believe. It’s on my blog, I write every day. You even read it. So, you jolly well know what I believe and only want believers to say it so you can seize some phrase, link it to some horrible atrocity, and say..ohhhhh see what the Christian did!
Back to the subject at hand John. Why won’t you repent and believe? It’s easy, and I know your heart is not too hard yet, because you keep coming to these blogs. That’s the Holy Spirit calling out to you John. Why won’t you answer?
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john zande said:
Yes or no, Wally… Do you believe in Hell?
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Wally Fry said:
No John. You have been asked a question. Why don’t you answer? I have no obligation to give you an answer to every thing you ask. You know what I believe. To ask is stupid.
You answer what you have been asked. It’s easy, you can do it
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john zande said:
Yes, you do have an obligation. You accused me of lying by saying you believed in Hell.
So, Wally, let’s have it. Was I lying? Do you, Yes or No, believe in Hell?
Yes, or No, Wally…
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Wally Fry said:
No, I don’t. I never said what you just stated. Ever. I said you lied by your earlier gross mis statement of what I believed. I said that is not what I believe. You said it is. You are either stupid or lying. We all know you were not stupid.
And you aren’t my Daddy, so you actually don’t have authority, so I don’t need your reminders about what I am obligated to do.
Now, about the question posed to you John? What is your answer?
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john zande said:
I said you lied by your earlier gross mis statement of what I believed.
I said you evangelicals believe in Hell, a Hell your particular Middle Eastern god, Yhwh, created for people who don’t love him back exactly as he demands.
So, Wally, Yes or No… Do you believe in the existence of Hell?
Yes or No, Wally…
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Wally Fry said:
John, I answered the question you asked, period. I do not believe as you stated in the question.
Now, on to MY question. Why won’t you answer it John? It’s very simple
The blog world waits.
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john zande said:
You answered? So, am I correct to say then that I lied by saying you believe in Hell, when in fact, you, Wally, don’t believe in Hell
Is that right, Wally: You DO NOT believe in Hell?
Could you please clarify this.
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Wally Fry said:
So, John. God love you and will forgive you.
Why won’t you repent and believe? I think that is the question on the table. You asked yours. I answered. You didn’t like the answer, so you have reworded the question to leave out the parts you know you blew.
No..your turn. Why does my question bother you so John? Why won’t you answer?
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john zande said:
No, you haven’t answered.
Do you, Yes or No, believe in Hell?
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Wally Fry said:
John, I answered your original question. That answer was no. Not my fault you screwed up the question. No do overs.
Your turn. You asked a messed up question, I answered it. Too bad, so sad. My turn to ask, your turn to answer.
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john zande said:
That answer was no.
So, just so we’re clear, you DON’T believe in Hell… Is that correct?
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Wally Fry said:
IB, sorry to have taken up so much of your blog with this useless conversation.
John obviously has no intention of responding to anything anyone asks him. Par for the course, as John never answers questions.
Peace John, I won’t waste any more precious breath on you.
IB, thanks for the latitude
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john zande said:
Yes, you are wasting time and space… so just answer the question.
Yes or No, Wally: Do you believe in hell?
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insanitybytes22 said:
Zande, Jesus Christ died on the cross to keep us out of hell. He gave His life to protect us.
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john zande said:
From the place (Hell) he (being Yhwh) created for us? LOL!
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insanitybytes22 said:
Well, I’m pretty sure hell was created for the angels and their assorted minions, Zande. It was not intended for us. Sin was not intended for us either.
God like any good parent, wants good things for His children, provides them good things. Kids however, don’t always avail themselves of what their parents want for them. We’re stubborn, we think we know better, we think our parents are full of nonsense, so often we have to learn everything the hard way.
God is a God of love, not punishment. He placed us in a perfect garden and when we messed that up, He gave His life for us. What more can God do to prove Himself to us?
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john zande said:
God is a God of love
Really?
“The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.” (Exodus 15:3)
Seems you have to work on your messaging 😉
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john zande said:
Or how about this one:
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insanitybytes22 said:
Almost, but no cigar Zande. Jesus knocks at that door because He desires to save us from the nature of our own selves.
You are like a child, arguing with the guy who offers you a life raft because you’re mad at the ocean you’re drowning in.
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john zande said:
Who dishes out the punishment, Inanity? Who built Hell?
Or are you like Wally, and you don’t believe in Hell, either?
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insanitybytes22 said:
“Who dishes out the punishment, Inanity? Who built Hell?”
We did. God offers us the alternative.
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john zande said:
Humans built Hell? So, you believe we have the power of metaphysical creation? That’s interesting.
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insanitybytes22 said:
No problem, Wally. You always have some good words to share.
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john zande said:
Wally, let’s get this straight here, just so we’re clear: You DON’T believe in Hell… Is that correct?
If that is correct (and you don’t believe in Hell) then I’ll admit i misrepresented your beliefs.
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Wally Fry said:
Just in case some have not read the thread, here is what you said
“It’s actually quite accurate in terms of how you evangelicals perceive your particular Middle Eastern god, Yhwh. I mean, this particular god did create Hell just to punish you for eternity if you don’t love it back exactly the way it wants. That is what you believe, isn’t it, Wally? ”
The answer to that question is simply, no I do not believe that.
You persist in telling that I do.
I do not.
You either lack comprehension, or intentionally misrepresent. That’s just a fancy word for lie.
Now, on to MY question John. Your turn.
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john zande said:
You don’t believe Hell exists?
It’s a yes or no question, Wally.
Yes, or No….
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Wally Fry said:
Well I am afraid mine is more that a yes or no answer, but I still eagerly await.
Why won’t you repent and believe?
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john zande said:
Wally, Yes or No… Do you believe in the existence of Hell?
Yes or No, Wally?
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Wally Fry said:
So, my question scares you.
I see.
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john zande said:
Sure, much like a hippy threatening to punch me in my aura.
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john zande said:
Wally, hello? Do you, or don’t you, believe in Hell?
I believe you just called me a liar for saying you believe in Hell… so I think you should clarify this point immediately.
Do you, Yes or No, believe in Hell, Wally?
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Wally Fry said:
LOL..good try John. Nah..I’m done with you.
Peace
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john zande said:
Ah, so you lied to me.
I see.
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Wally Fry said:
So, will you answer what you have been asked?
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theancients said:
JZ, you clearly asked a question and in exactly the same manner that a hypothetical question was raised to you.
The question already assumes the answer.
jz: “I wrote this batter wife post of yours?”
Do you see that. Your question says she wrote a ‘batter wife post’.
Grow up.
JZ, your very first comment was aimed at defilement. You tirelessly seek to profane what is sacred. Shame on you. Now you’re deflecting.
IB: “It is accepting that the error may well be on our end and not on His” [How did this statement devolve into the one below by you]
JZ: “Battered wives say the same thing.”
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john zande said:
Hi Ancients
I did not ask a question at the beginning. The question you put here was a rhetorical joke. You do know what that means, don’t you?
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brianbalke said:
There error in the analogy, John, is that abusers continue with the meme: “You’re so worthless. No one else will ever love you the way that I do.” Christian faith leads into the promise of a world filled with love from every other, as well as the love tendered by God. It comes with Jesus’s promise: “Things even greater than these shall you do.” God does not bind us into servitude – he holds out the hope of freedom.
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MustardSeedBudget.wordpress.com said:
I hope you don’t mind me saying this, but I just love your unabashed tone and fearlessness to take on any subject. This is the part I hope you don’t take wrong, but this blog should be called “Spirit Sass” hahaha
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insanitybytes22 said:
Ha! Thank you for your kind words, they are much appreciated. Spirit sass, yes I like that. 😉
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SandySays1 said:
Hope lots of folks read this one-
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Vincent S Artale Jr said:
Reblogged this on Talmidimblogging.
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theancients said:
These are some great words of wisdom.
I’m always amazed at the absolute brilliance behind creation. The very first step for every single human being towards anything of value -wisdom- must begin with a humble heart.
This sums it up very well for me: “I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.”
Father, grant us the wisdom to know the debilitating bondage of pride within us that enslaves us, and for us to humbly seek You and Your ways.
An awesome post. Thank you.
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insanitybytes22 said:
Thank you for your kind words and for reading.
And thank you for this wonderful prayer, “Father, grant us the wisdom to know the debilitating bondage of pride within us that enslaves us, and for us to humbly seek You and Your ways”
Amen!! 😉
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theancients said:
Amen!
Sometimes I seriously break out in praise (song/prayer) when I read a post. lol
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Grace and Truth Ministries International said:
That was tremendous! I knew the gift was in you. 🙂
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insanitybytes22 said:
Thank you for reading and for your kind words. It is good to hear from you again. 😉
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uju said:
Good one IB. I love your wisdom and ability to break down every subject to their basics.
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insanitybytes22 said:
Thanks for reading and for your kind words. 😉
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bill theunfetteredpreacher cote said:
“Lord, I’m a moron. I do not know what I think I know. Help me to understand.” my prayer also. reblogged on: http://theunfetteredpreacher.com
thanks
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Heather Holbrook said:
Loved the line about our pride making us dumber than a box of rocks. So, so true!!! Loved this post.
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insanitybytes22 said:
Thank you. 😉
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eisernon said:
There is a famous quote that applies here: “Never argue with an idiot (and I will add, “nor with someone on the side of evil.”) They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” It’s no one’s business what another believes; if you are a Judeo-Christian believer, you already have the experience of the Mercy of God; and if you are simply someone who likes to badger others, look carefully at who and what you may be following. You can never tell where that broad and easy path may lead. God bless all of you.
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