“IB knows Christ never condemned homosexuality or defined marriage.”
IB knows no such thing! I haven’t responded to that particular meme because of a lack of time and reluctance to engage in too many debates at once. I will now, however.
First off, the word “condemned.” Near as I can tell Christ is the opposite of condemnation. Something may be wrong, undesirable, a sin, but John 3:17 clearly states, For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. So forget the rhetorical trickery of trying to slip the word “condemned” in there. In Christ there is no condemnation.
To oppose same-sex marriage has nothing what so ever to do with “condemnation” or “condemning” anyone. We’re all sinners. Well, except for a couple of pompous and arrogant pharisees who seem to believe they’ve obtained perfection or something, in which case I wish they’d just ascend already and leave the rest of us alone.
However, scripture is pretty clear on the issue of marriage. In Matthew 19:4-6 Christ says “And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”
Sounds pretty clear to me. Although through the ages there may have been polygamy, slavery, and assorted other human-defined arrangements, that’s certainly not the intended design spoken of by “He who made them at the beginning.”
Also, three of the four gospels, Matthew, Mark, and Luke speak of Sodom and Gomorrah, specifically sexual sin, homosexuality, and failing to feed the poor. There were huge gaps between the rich and the poor, sexual immorality running rampant, very little morality of any sort, and the very foundation of those cities, the cornerstone that held those civilizations up, was being disregarded, disrespected. It was a free for all, might makes right. Over and over again we are warned about this. Luke 17:30 even goes so far as to say, “Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.”
So you see, Jesus did speak rather directly about the issue of same-sex marriage and the consequences of falling away. But let’s also go on to look at who Christ really was, John1:1 says, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. So, from the very start, from Genesis to Revelation, homosexuality is not approved of and marriage is defined as being between a man and a woman. From day one to the very end. The alpha and the omega.
As if to reinforce that very fact, frequently it is the very language of marriage that scripture uses to describe our own relationship with Christ. The Bride, the Body of Christ, the church. There is a whole spiritual union being described there, in the closest form of language that we can understand, the intimacy and covenant of marriage.
The entire bible begins with two naked people in a garden and ends with a wedding. I have to say, I think scripture is quite clear that marriage between a man and a woman is pretty darn important to God. Christ Himself comes for His Bride, His Body of Christ. Right to that very final chapter we see the language of marriage being spoken by “He who made them at the beginning.”
As to “judge not least you be judged.” The word “judge” is to be found some 700 times in the bible. In fact there’s an entire book called Judges! No where are people called to be so open minded their brains fall out. Let’s look at Psalms 37:30 “The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.” Or John 7:24 “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.”
Like many other people, I don’t want to offend anybody, I don’t want to be seen as judging or condemning anyone. I want to soothe hurt feelings. I believe in love and mercy and redemption, but there is absolutely nothing in scripture that tells me I should support gay marriage. In fact, just the opposite. We have clear instructions in a dozen different ways telling us not to.
To attempt to force, threaten, intimidate, punish, those of us who do our best to understand and follow scripture, is really to suppress our religious freedom.
It’s a difficult issue, especially where I live because so many Christians subscribe to the belief that there is nothing in scripture against SSM and I’m often left feeling as if I’ve fallen down a rabbit hole or something. I do not understand how anyone can read the bible and come to that conclusion.
“Christ never condemned homosexuality or defined marriage,” is simply a whopper too big for a whale to swallow.