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Violet has a post up called “a dawning realisation” in which she says, “Browsing round Christian blogs earlier today, I had the dawning realisation that many religious people view the world with the eyes of a child and the processing power of a Commodore 64.”
I thought that was rather funny and well put. The thing is, Violet is on the outside looking in and therefore can only see what she wants to see. She must stereotype other Christians in order to constantly justify her own non belief. That is something I find fascinating within atheism, the constant need to try to validate one’s own non belief. It is a full-time task, let me tell you.
I do not feel that way about most Christians or Christian blogs at all. In fact, it took me quite a struggle, a rather extensive bit of research, before I could possibly find any Christian that even resembles that stereotype. I did eventually find it however, in a couple of red pill churchian gamers, and I have relentlessly attempted to break through some of that hubris, but to no avail.
Unfortunately I am a woman and rule number one is to never listen to anything women have to say because they just might…..make sense.
Enough with the non believer versus Christian thing, however, let me just edit her opening sentence to something I can agree with, “many people view the world with the eyes of a child and the processing power of a Commodore 64.” It’s rather true you know. People are so full of biases and their own preconceived notions, that sometimes you do feel as if you are playing an old-fashioned game of pong with a slightly stupid monkey.
Intelligence hardly has anything to do with it at all, it is all just relentless confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance. Knee jerk emotionalism and endless rhetoric. It is actually somewhat rare to find people capable of genuine conversation of any sort at all. Everybody is the member of some inner ring these days, privy to special knowledge no one else in the human race could possibly have. All the other humans are beneath me. They’re all bigots and morons, brainwashed and delusional.
Take for instance Vox Day, my little adopted brother in Christ, a man who likes to present himself as having a high IQ, higher than 1% of the population or so he alleges. He than proceeds to wrap himself in so much rhetoric and cognitive dissonance he cannot even see the forest for the trees. In order to even speak to him, you have to climb way up to his ego and then try to jump down to his intellect, without breaking an ankle. No easy feat, I assure you.
Trying to talk to him really is like trying to play pong with a monkey. He does perceive the world through the eyes of a child and with the processing power of a Commodore 64. So, his idea of representing Christ involves promoting hatred, bigotry, and revenge. He is going to bully his way through the world and across the internet. Might makes right. Not truth and beauty, just might. I am a god, or perhaps an evil minion, I think he prefers that one. Unfortunately he calls himself a Christian. Well, actually he calls himself the Voice of God.
He is the precise stereotype, the caricature of Christianity, that so many non believers seek. He is the justification for all your non belief. He is the footnote to all the characteristics that Violet lists on her blog. And he does not care. In fact, I suspect he rather enjoys being the anti-thesis of all that Christ taught.
He is also completely irrelevent to the Truth, however. You could find a thousand believers just like him and it would not matter one whit. God is still God. I can recognize that just because one claims to be a Christian, does not mean they are. I can recognize that there is a huge difference between a militant atheist and a simple non believer, too.
I can also recognize that when something is challenging one’s preconceived notions, cognitive dissonance will usually compel us to dehumanize the person making the argument, to try to discredit their intelligence, to try to claim they are just too stupid to perceive the world as we do. That is almost always a fallacy in our own thinking. It is almost an act of self-defense to strike back, to call forth others to help us with our mockery and ridicule so we will feel validated.
Number 5 on Violet’s list of childish Christian traits, “I don’t like the outside world because I haven’t experienced it.” Au contraire Violet, I don’t like the outside world because I have experienced it. It is not a place we want to go.
I followed some of that. I gotta tell you that anyone who calls themselves “The Voice of God” scares me.
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What scares me more is how many Christians never think to question it.
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Great, great, great read! Eloquently said. There are so many assumptions made by those looking in that they simply cannot clearly see. I love how you opened, “Violet is on the outside looking in and therefore can only see what she wants to see.” In lies many assumptions…’The poor Christians just don’t know any better because they lack worldly experience.’ For most, this is the furthest from the truth. They keep looking for the stumbling Christian, perhaps in order to yell hypocrite, and then justify their place in atheism (or any other ‘religion’). But, if they had eyes to see they would see a mere mortal, stumbling toward Truth…one sin at a time.
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Without Christ, Christianity is idiocy. It makes no sense to sacrifice yourself or forgive. Without Christ, Darwinism rules. Unless there is an ultimate protector who loves, wants the best for us, and is good and just, it makes no sense to give up our lives. We are the ultimate idiots if He doesn’t exist.
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OH CRAP! I know him… I think I call him dad. Oh wait, maybe its Nicole from that oversea’s “ministry” You know, the one that takes American’s money so she can live like a queen in a 3rd world country, but never has stepped inside of a church… oh, yes, I know them – they play cards every Friday with Violet.
Putting a monkey in the mix was really hitting below the belt.
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Children have a gift for seeing and stating the obvious with honesty. They make no judgments or have any hidden agendas. Simple truth in plain sight. This is the reason so many can’t see it. They are blinded by self and their own foolish pride. “the emperor has no clothes” one of my favorites. No one wants others to believe they are dumb. Hidden knowledge – right hasn’t worked out from the very beginning- yet people are falling for it right and left.
Great post as always! you truly amaze me with your knowledge, wit, and words. I cant wait to meet you in person on the other side of this life. Love and Blessings!
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Wow, this was fabulous. Her post is a shining example of the tiresome tactic of trying to invalidate a person/group when you don’t agree with their message but don’t know how to put forth a compelling argument against it. You see it with religion of course and politics, which really is akin to a religion for some. What always amazes me about Atheists, is they think Christians haven’t “looked at the evidence” or wrestled with uncomfortable aspects of the Bible or read the same info they have that proves God doesn’t exist. I’m sure those of us who have gone through the process of reconciling the old with the new and the sometimes agonizing sanctification that must take please can comfortably say, um, yes we have and that’s why we now believe.
On a funny note, I thought you’d get a kick out of one of the comments about you on her blog…….”had to stop visiting Insanity’s blog, it made me insane. Though I like that she has a good sense of humor about most things.” How nice. 🙂
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When I say “her post” I mean Violet’s of course.
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Ehem…
IS SOMEBODY DISSING THE COMMODORE 64!!???
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ROFL! You are too funny! 😉
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XD Why thank you! You just made my evening. 🙂
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I thought maybe Violet was referring to people who except the Bible as true and inerrant. I can see that she might think of them as childlike. After all, trusting God in the same way that we trusted our parents when we were little does seem quite childlike. But I think that’s exactly what God calls us to do — trust him and lean not on our own understanding. So in that regard I think I would say to Violet, you’re right Christians are childlike. Anyone who isn’t childlike is trying to control life instead of depending on God to do that.
Now the outdated processing capacity, that’s a different story. I keep finding examples of Christians who came out of atheism because of an intellectual examination of some of the big life questions: who am I, why am I here, what’s the purpose of life, where are we going? I’m a bit irritated that atheists think faith is divorced from logic and reason. It’s not an either/or proposition.
Becky
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“I dislike the world because I’ve never experienced it.”
Ummm….doesn’t seem like it’s the Christians who dislike the world. Who’s trying to abolish anything traditional or normative?
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It is wrongly assumed that science requires more intelligence than religion. But in fact science requires only abstraction and computation which a computer too can do; however the apprehension of religions truth demands a superior intelligence which is not recognized within science, something no computer can ever do; religion demands the highest degree of intellectual intuition. That science fails to grasps religious truth it is simply because it fails not because there are no absolute truths. Science computes with given facts, religion intuits veiled truths. There is no doubt some religious people are more immersed in symbols of religion than its fundamental truths; but this is equally true of most atheists which are just blind fans of science entertaining childish ideas of telleportation, quantum jumping, and sticking their fingers in wormholes. Science is their religion and many of them view the world with the eyes of a child and the processing power of an abacus 😉
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Well said and thanks for stating it so well. I quite agree. Ha, an abacus, yes 😉
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The standard any Christian should use is the word of God, which is the Holy Bible. The perfect example of humanity without God’s word is the end of Judges. And it’s rather sad. Thankfully, by Christ’s blood we are saved!
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Amen to that 😉
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